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Half of the people in this thread get upset when people talk about xg and now they want a data-driven approach to recruitment?

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What people getting upset over nothing in the ENIC thread, say it aint so
 
I agree with that point. There’s been a failure to regulate. I’ve made that point in here too - until we get meaningful regulation we won’t see a more competitive league. Which is why asking for us to be backed by a state is ridiculous - you’re asking for more of the thing that is wrong. You don’t care about what’s fair or right or good as long as you personally benefit.
I am being pragmatic , as I pointed out to Shady the Levy Out mob who actually protest are tiny . The outraged Oil State ownership is disgusting mob do even less .

So if those who don’t like the Oil State ownership cannot be arsed it is not going to change , their outrage is even more fake than my Levy Out stance , which is apathetic acceptance in reality . Let’s not pretend you or anyone else are fighting hard for a fairer system you are not. So the pragmatic position is if we want to win anything we might as well suck it up and get bought
 
Neither Brentford or Brighton have won anything or got to top 4, after 23 years we should have a plan battened down by now,
They’ve improved and massively overachieved. If we do the same, we will be win things and jostle for top 4. What are his other options? He’s tried big name managers, fail. Spend like City and Chelsea?

This should have been the plan five years ago
 
I am being pragmatic , as I pointed out to Shady the Levy Out mob who actually protest are tiny . The outraged Oil State ownership is disgusting mob do even less .

So if those who don’t like the Oil State ownership cannot be arsed it is not going to change , their outrage is even more fake than my Levy Out stance , which is apathetic acceptance in reality . Let’s not pretend you or anyone else are fighting hard for a fairer system you are not. So the pragmatic position is if we want to win anything we might as well suck it up and get bought
What are you talking about Ed?

If you’re not actively campaigning on an issue then you can’t hold a belief? You’re too old to have the views of a 16 year old.

There is an important difference between the two situations though. Levy out want to change something that is happening to their club. You want people to take action about something not happening… we’re not backed by a state and there’s no reason to believe we’re about to be.

If it happens then I won’t support spurs anymore. Like I’ve said many times I’ll stick to international football and rugby.
 
What are you talking about Ed?

If you’re not actively campaigning on an issue then you can’t hold a belief? You’re too old to have the views of a 16 year old.

There is an important difference between the two situations though. Levy out want to change something that is happening to their club. You want people to take action about something not happening… we’re not backed by a state and there’s no reason to believe we’re about to be.

If it happens then I won’t support spurs anymore. Like I’ve said many times I’ll stick to international football and rugby.
My point is I guess I am not willing to stop supporting the club irrespective of ownership as i do not believe the owners to be the club . I believe the club to be the fans , the history , the great managers and great ex players , the local pubs , the tingle of electricity as the players run out , the rush of adrenalin at Villa”s goal in 81 , Parks save in the penalty shoot out, Greaves and Kane’s scoring prowess , the Ajax semi final , etc etc etc . Older fans will include the double winning team , I did not see them , but I know the reverence they are held in .
That is the Club not , Lewis , Levy or a sovereign wealth fund . The guy with the chicken stall opposite is more Spurs than ANY of the former as far as I am concerned.

So I can live with the money of an oil state as they are not my club , they are simply the next owner in a list of not very pleasant recent owners in my view
 
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What are you talking about Ed?

If you’re not actively campaigning on an issue then you can’t hold a belief? You’re too old to have the views of a 16 year old.

There is an important difference between the two situations though. Levy out want to change something that is happening to their club. You want people to take action about something not happening… we’re not backed by a state and there’s no reason to believe we’re about to be.

If it happens then I won’t support spurs anymore. Like I’ve said many times I’ll stick to international football and rugby.
Seems a bit extreme, to turn your back on the club because of ownership you don't like.
If it did change, and we became like city hoovering up trophies, you wouldn't be happy then.
To date , many of us don't like the ENIC model, which to date hasn't worked, but we have not turned our back, instead been vocal in voicing displeasure.
But if that is your stance, then I can respect it.
 
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Liverpool pay wages and agents' fees we don't and have beaten us to multiple players.

The most important numbers to ENIC aren't fucking statistics and never will be with Levy at the helm.

Brighton and Brentford don't spend like Liverpool have, funny how they're the two main clubs mentioned as the model ENIC want to emulate.
 
Would you give up on Spurs and perhaps a non league team instead?

I couldn't care less who owns us, I just want attacking, winning football.
It's a tricky one. You cant really change team but it would feel tainted & I would lose love for the club.

When you say you couldn't care less who owns us?
A conglomerate of pedophiles is ok with you then?

What about a bunch of murderers?
Because essentially that's what Newcastle now have.

Abu Dhabi who own City & Qatar who own PSG is not as strict/barbaric as Saudi but they are still dictatorships that torture people.
Middle Eastern states that abuse people's Human rights and embrace corruption imho have no place in football.

It stunk that the World cup was held there.

So no I would not want them owning my club.
 
Liverpool pay wages and agents' fees we don't and have beaten us to multiple players.

The most important numbers to ENIC aren't fucking statistics and never will be with Levy at the helm.

Brighton and Brentford don't spend like Liverpool have, funny how they're the two main clubs mentioned as the model ENIC want to emulate.

And? Is that meant to alter the point? Just because Liverpool pay more than us, does it mean that we cannot emulate them and/or it will not work for us, what are we doing here?

This doesn't make any sense either, if the club are looking to go down the data route then that suggests that stats are important to them.

And also it's funny that the two main clubs have been mentioned by the media isn't it, but if that's what you want to run with to get your little kicks out of bashing the club then you do you.

You've had a mare here.
 
I don't interact with you much because you've been on ignore from the 1st day I saw your username pop up.

Yes, I've had a 'mare here. Because some of the best clubs in the world use stats for scouting and where did this statistics revamp story come from in the first place and who actually brought up Liverpool anyway?

Where's that article about Liverpool from again? Medium 3 years ago? By footballing 'math' savant Viroshan Naicker?

Yeah, real 'mare Dan. You're still a fucking ordeal tbh.
 
I don't interact with you much because you've been on ignore from the 1st day I saw your username pop up.

Yes, I've had a 'mare here. Because some of the best clubs in the world use stats for scouting and where did this statistics revamp story come from in the first place and who actually brought up Liverpool anyway?

Where's that article about Liverpool from again? Medium 3 years ago? By footballing 'math' savant Viroshan Naicker?

Yeah, real 'mare Dan. You're still a fucking ordeal tbh.

You don't interact with me because you can't accept that I call you out on your bullshit like this.

The story came from the media, it was mentioned that Spurs could follow the same model as Brighton and Brentford by the media, the same media that chose to ignore the fact that many teams around the world including Liverpool use it as well so I brought them up because folk like you will use anything to have a cheap shot at your their club.

And yes the article was written when they won the fucking league and they are still using the method's now, you can dance around the point and use all the mental gymnastics you want it doesn't alter the point that Spurs are looking into the same methods that Liverpool use, the same methods that bought them success but I guess that doesn't give you the dopamine you require to bash the club does it.

But yeah Spurs copying Brentford, small club mentality etc.. lolz
 
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