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Here is a list of the most successful English league clubs. We are 7th way behind Liverpool, Man U & Woolwich for trophies (the real traditional powerhouses).

Look at the stats in black & white.
We have always had way more in common with Villa & Everton & been on a similar level to them rather than Liverpool, Man U & Woolwich.

However I would say we have overtaken them comfortablyunder Enic especually with the new stadium.

Do they get no credit for that?

Everton fans are the ones who should really be complaining. They are the biggest loser's in recent years since the demise of the more 'traditional' big 6.

We have more than held our position.

Take out the new mega corrupt money players City/Chavski/Newcastle.
I would say we are now easily the 4th biggest club in the Country & this was achieved under enics watch.


Unfortunately because we have to compete against these super wealthy entities out natural finishing position in the league is probably now still around 6/7th.

We have maintained our position. We surpassed it for a few years but as said it's cyclical.
The major gripe with Enic & I totally understand it, is not having a few more pots to show for the good years.

The fact remains we should be finishing 6th or 7th nowadays which is rather like finishing 4th pre abramovich.

Those are just black & white simple facts.
Thoughts on Enic don't come into.

Titles
Clubs (53)
League
FA Cup
League Cup
Europe
45
LIVERPOOL​
19​
8​
9​
9​
43
MANCHESTER UNITED​
20​
12​
6​
5​
30
Woolwich​
13​
14​
2​
1 (1)​
25
CHELSEA​
6​
8​
5​
6​
24
MANCHESTER CITY​
9​
6​
8​
1​
20
ASTON VILLA​
7​
7​
5​
1​
17
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR​
2​
8​
4​
3​
15
EVERTON​
9​
5​
0​
1​
10
NEWCASTLE UNITED​
4​

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Here is a list of the most successful English league clubs. We are 7th way behind Liverpool, Man U & Woolwich for trophies (the real traditional powerhouses).

Look at the stats in black & white.
We have always had way more in common with Villa & Everton & been on a similar level to them rather than Liverpool, Man U & Woolwich.

However I would say we have overtaken them very comfortably under Enic ( bar Villa this season) especually with the new stadium.

So we give them credit for that.

Everton fans are the ones who should really be complaining. They are the biggest loser's in recent years since the demise of the more 'traditional' big 6.

We have more than held our position.

Take out the mega corrupt money new players City/Chavski/Newcastle.

I would say we are now easily the 4th biggest club in the Country & this was achieved under enics watch.


Unfortunately because we have to now also compete against these super wealthy entities out natural finishing position in the league is probably now still around 6/7th. So in that regard it hasn't improved.

We have maintained our position. We surpassed it for a few years but as said football is cyclical.
The major gripe with Enic & I totally understand it, is not having a few more pots to show for the good years & there lack of planning recently.

The fact remains we should be finishing 6th or 7th nowadays which is rather like finishing 4th pre abramovich.

Those are just black & white simple facts.
Thoughts on Enic don't come into.

The table below shows our standing in the game.

Titles
Clubs (53)
League
FA Cup
League Cup
Europe
45
LIVERPOOL​
19​
8​
9​
9​
43
MANCHESTER UNITED​
20​
12​
6​
5​
30
Woolwich​
13​
14​
2​
1 (1)​
25
CHELSEA​
6​
8​
5​
6​
24
MANCHESTER CITY​
9​
6​
8​
1​
20
ASTON VILLA​
7​
7​
5​
1​
17
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR​
2​
8​
4​
3​
15
EVERTON​
9​
5​
0​
1​
10
NEWCASTLE UNITED​
4​

Before ENIC came along we were the joint record FA CUP winners and one of the country's most decorated clubs in Europe.

The fucking state of that record now :disdain:
 
Before ENIC came along we were the joint record FA CUP winners and one of the country's most decorated clubs in Europe.

The fucking state of that record now :disdain:
Fair point we should have won more cups under Enic. I have said that is the big gripe. I also remember times pre Enic when we were a total embarrassment in the league.
It's fair to say they have probably at times overachieved in the league but underachieved big time in winning cups.
 
& Breathe 🤣.

I'm not praising Enic they have got things wrong in recent years just saying I can see why they made the Mourinho/Conte decisions even though I didn't like them.

All I'm saying is anyone else could buy the club but there is really no guarantee of success unless it's a corrupt state run entity ?
Would you swap Enic for Evertons owners? Villa have done well this season under Emery but I wouldn't swap Everton or Villas last 10 years for ours.
Historically they are both similar size clubs to us. I'd say we have overtaken them.

The fact we ain't won the lg since 61 is all that nasty man Levy's fault 😁

Worse owners than ENIC existing is not a good defence of ENIC.

The UK government aren’t very good, but hey we could be Zimbabwe!


Who cares? I’m talking about ENIC, not Moshiri or Ashley or whoever else. There are some bad owners and then there are some very good ones.

This is all you guys do. Spend your lives looking down & being thankful we’re not THOSE guys. It’s such a shit mentality.

At least we’re not Leeds, at least we’re not Everton … blah blah blah. You guys ever get bored of fearing change? It could be a shit load better.
 
His rebrand as ‘The Massive Cock’ is sensational.

It’s like a Game of Thrones series 5 plot twist!

Another very believable poster.

English has improved massively in a few months too. Ridiculous improvement in a few months.
First 3 posts seemed to be written by a drunk parrot.
: ostrich:

Conte prove he very good coach over many years

Not best owner but have backed Antonio with some spending.
Stadium is very nice.
I read msg board for long time but not post.
Can have better men in charge yes.
Have best times under Mauricio

bad game .
Aston have good manager & some player but should beat at home.
 
Another very believable poster.

English has improved massively in a few months too. Ridiculous improvement in a few months.
First 3 posts seemed to be written by a drunk parrot.
: ostrich:

Conte prove he very good coach over many years

Not best owner but have backed Antonio with some spending.
Stadium is very nice.
I read msg board for long time but not post.
Can have better men in charge yes.
Have best times under Mauricio

bad game .
Aston have good manager & some player but should beat at home.
Lol what a fruit loop
 
Worse owners than ENIC existing is not a good defence of ENIC.

The UK government aren’t very good, but hey we could be Zimbabwe!


Who cares? I’m talking about ENIC, not Moshiri or Ashley or whoever else. There are some bad owners and then there are some very good ones.

This is all you guys do. Spend your lives looking down & being thankful we’re not THOSE guys. It’s such a shit mentality.

At least we’re not Leeds, at least we’re not Everton … blah blah blah. You guys ever get bored of fearing change? It could be a shit load better.
Just stating facts. Not really my problem if u can't handle the truth.
Sure they could've done things better, but also they could've done things worse.

So realistically where do yo think should we be as a club clown pants?🤔
 
Just stating facts. Not really my problem if u can't handle the truth.
Sure they could've done things better, but also they could've done things worse.

So realistically where do yo think should we be as a club clown pants?🤔

If I may add my 2 cents, in response to where I think we should be as a club.

We should be in a position where we can say:

"Our cycle has ended and its regression to the mean based on our level of expenditure relative to the elite.

I'm so thankful that when poch transformed the team, we backed him at the critical moment with (insert elite talent here) to capitalise on this once in a generation opportunity with one of the finest strikers to ever grace this club.

I'm so proud to have seen my team win an FA Cup."
 
Just stating facts. Not really my problem if u can't handle the truth.
Sure they could've done things better, but also they could've done things worse.

So realistically where do yo think should we be as a club clown pants?🤔

We should

- Have more than one league cup in 20 years.
- Be able to play consistently enjoyable football which hasn’t been the case for years
- Not be sacking coaches every 5 minutes
- Have some tangible plan for the future
- Have something beyond buildings that the fans can point towards and be proud of. Because the fans are currently miserable & the club has lost all sense of purpose or identity.

It’s amazing to me that you look at where we are as a club (fans booing the players/owner constantly, the only world class footballer wanting out etc) and you think this is our lot. All you can point to is shit in the past. ENIC haven’t made decent decisions consistently in YEARS.
 
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