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On the transparency debate, hasn't Paritici come out at the end of transfer windows and given interviews, isn't that the kind of thing you're looking for?
 
Well maybe the club can offer a contrary interpretation in their own words! I rather tire of only having boring internet trolls endlessly manning the ramparts of Castle Levy.
It’s not fair to call people who disagree with you an internet troll. That’s not good faith discussion.

I think some of the disagreement is over an interpretation of results. Neither of us has much insight into Levy or his role beyond the results. Levy is several layers removed from the results but he’s clearly responsible.

You feel that I am protecting levy but I feel that I am trying to give a fair take on just how well we’ve done as a club, especially over the past 15 years. We’ve done some incredibly good things both on AND off the pitch. It seems like people really downplay that in order to criticise the club or pretend that the good things are only off the pitch. I’m interested in being positive about our club more than Levy but I do pushback because people use a misrepresentation of our achievements to bash Levy.
 
It’s not fair to call people who disagree with you an internet troll. That’s not good faith discussion.

I think some of the disagreement is over an interpretation of results. Neither of us has much insight into Levy or his role beyond the results. Levy is several layers removed from the results but he’s clearly responsible.

You feel that I am protecting levy but I feel that I am trying to give a fair take on just how well we’ve done as a club, especially over the past 15 years. We’ve done some incredibly good things both on AND off the pitch. It seems like people really downplay that in order to criticise the club or pretend that the good things are only off the pitch. I’m interested in being positive about our club more than Levy but I do pushback because people use a misrepresentation of our achievements to bash Levy.
Three years ago this opinion would have been spot on, but now we are in a downward spiral on and off the field. Absolute continued disaster

Stale throughout, top to bottom. Is this was a PLC, shareholder activivists would have seen off the CEO. This is fact. He’s incompetent, and has to go. This is not about signing a few good players, it’s far deeper than that.
 
On the transparency debate, hasn't Paritici come out at the end of transfer windows and given interviews, isn't that the kind of thing you're looking for?
A couple of times, exclusively stage-managed by the club.

And it's not his fault but he really just wasn't able to express himself terribly clearly in English.

More and more clubs are doing that, releasing in-house interviews with prominent figures. Levy did that in 2021. It's possible to be done well. I'd settle for that if it was.

The Levy one in 2021 beggared belief. Remember this? June 12!



He's not a good public communicator, nor an eager one. That's fine. He should hire someone who is.

Maybe he's done so in Munn. We'll see.
 
Three years ago this opinion would have been spot on, but now we are in a downward spiral on and off the field. Absolute continued disaster

Stale throughout, top to bottom. Is this was a PLC, shareholder activivists would have seen off the CEO. This is fact. He’s incompetent, and has to go. This is not about signing a few good players, it’s far deeper than that.
You managed to post your opinion, support it with logic, and not insult anyone in the process. Not even PEH.

Now we know anything is possible.
 
Three years ago this opinion would have been spot on, but now we are in a downward spiral on and off the field. Absolute continued disaster

Stale throughout, top to bottom. Is this was a PLC, shareholder activivists would have seen off the CEO. This is fact. He’s incompetent, and has to go. This is not about signing a few good players, it’s far deeper than that.
I agree with you about the past 3 years.

I don’t know though if 18 years of excellent performance and 3 years of poor performance can lead to comments like « he’s incompetent » or « he has to go ». I think that’s over the top.

However I don’t think he has forever. The next cycle (couple of years) will be important to me and if he leads similar poor performance then I’m likely to be with you.
 
I agree with you about the past 3 years.

I don’t know though if 18 years of excellent performance and 3 years of poor performance can lead to comments like « he’s incompetent » or « he has to go ». I think that’s over the top.

However I don’t think he has forever. The next cycle (couple of years) will be important to me and if he leads similar poor performance then I’m likely to be with you.
Let me welcome you aboard nice and early , Levy is not turning this around, well unless the iceberg is behind him .
 
Maybe on the Board to a degree. But not below that. Technical staff, players. And Lewis is not blind. My big hope is he will soon conclude that Levy is damaging his investment and want changes.

Possibly right, not that it matters, they'll only care if they're being paid, it's not as if they've got an influence on the club anyway, JL doesn't care either as he doesn't run the club, just leaves it all up to Levy.
 
I agree with you about the past 3 years.

I don’t know though if 18 years of excellent performance and 3 years of poor performance can lead to comments like « he’s incompetent » or « he has to go ». I think that’s over the top.

However I don’t think he has forever. The next cycle (couple of years) will be important to me and if he leads similar poor performance then I’m likely to be with you.
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We are a top 8 club. No shame in that. It's historically our position. It's not like we are finishing 15th. We have simply fell back to our more natural position rather than overachieving by finishing top 4.
How is top 8 in England the natural position for the 9th wealthiest club on the planet, one of the best supported clubs in the country, and with the biggest match day revenues in Europe?

ENIC's losing culture seeping in to the fanbase.
 
Read the words I write not the ones you

Many staff will think he's doing more than ok for the football club.

He has built the best stadium in the land , a state of the art training ground creating more jobs while still maintaining the team largely in the top 8 where historically we have always been.

Fans are different so will not be happy unless we are winning cups & doing better in the league.
As far as I'm concerned he neglected his duty of maintaining a team capable of challenging. Instead prioritising off field projects
 
What did you hear here that you didn’t get from Paratici?

I didn’t hear a grilling or any meaningful talk of strategy.

And you’ll appreciate that people like Deuterz Deuterz will write off any positive things people say at the club because they’re employees. « Of course they’ll say that ».
Same as you ignoring any negatives - fucking constantly trolling, with that Patronising superior attitude.
 
As far as I'm concerned he neglected his duty of maintaining a team capable of challenging. Instead prioritising off field projects
Again it's a fair point.
Has levy cashed in on 'off the field' stuff & neglected the team?
To some extent I think that is an argument that has merit.

What I will say is building prem stadiums anywhere let alone in London ain't cheap.

We along with Woolwich are the only clubs to do it so far in recent times.

Woolwich were winning titles at the library since moving looks like they sold their best players & league position dropped.

So if that's the case do we need to take a hit for a few years?

I honestly don't know. If the off field projects work & the stadium debt is serviced we can still spend decent money I think?

It's spending it wisely.

Under Conte we spent over £180m.
I know it's not stupid Chelsea amounts but in 1 summer & winter windows it's a decent chunk.
 
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