Yep two seasons in Europe, and WHU bag a trophy, but Mr Levy said that, winning was hard.
If clubs like WHU, Leicester and Wigan, can bag trophies, then our club needs to look at itself hard.
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If clubs like WHU, Leicester and Wigan, can bag trophies, then our club needs to look at itself hard.
I didn’t say they are all crap, I just disagree that the majority are ‘very good’.
You've lost the plot if you don't get it.
We were only invited in on one factor
"Financial Clout "
No other reason, we have won fuck all , everybody else had been very very successful this century.
Levy built our infrastructure not to be a competitive football team but for capital growth. A master plan and business brilliance if
Value is your main concern. Levy was well aware of the Super League , was on board from the start and was one of the first to throw his hat in.
Perfect as the Super League would attract global and tourists for the experience, little pressure to be competitive and no financial risk . The golden egg . Just seeing Real Madrid wallop us every year would satisfy the newer generation of football fan. The " money making Beast " would not help us to be a better team , no doubt we would spend twice as much as today but others would spend 4 times . A closed shop with us happily rewarded with endless cash for just taking part.
Your concern should be to stand up to a tyrant who would blow the wheels of anything if it made him more money.
Levy knows under Enic we can't compete or won't in the premier league but that isn't his concern. There is a bigger picture.
While the majority of our legacy fan base have eventually woken up and read through Levy's blundering , wall of lies and realise football success isn't on the table we are stuck in perpetual discourse.
I understand your a Enic supporter so maybe it is hard to understand the emotional baggage many of us have how our club has been manipulated for personal gain over football.
All came from clubs who paid them a lot less than we pay players. Much easier to convince them to come if we offer them more than they currently earn.
It all goes wrong when we go after players who are already paid well, or are in competition with other teams who pay well. I bet on that list, only Ndombele earns "good" money.
I keep saying it, you can argue a transfer fee is an investment that financially sits between an asset and a liability. Like, it cost you money, but it's a sellable asset too. Wages and associated costs are 100% liabilities.
We will spend £50m on a player, but generally speaking, we won't pay them £200k a week even if they're absolutely class and guaranteed to improve us.
Man United sign players like Varane and Cassemiero. Players at the height of football and they pay them what they're worth. Those players come and they immediately improve United.
We sign donkies like Sanchez and Hoijberg. We probably spent more on the transfer fees than United did on Varane and Cassemiero too, but I'd bet my arse the package is less.
We haven't finished 6 points off relegation trying to win it, and we've only once been in a mickey mouse conference league. Every other campaign has been Europa or Champions league.
I'll always maintain, risking a bottom 3rd finish (or going down) trying to win a cup with very little benefit is a terrible idea. Imagine if they got relegated and lost in the final. That's the margin they were dealing with.
It's much safer going all out to win a league cup, which has just as much benefit (europa league spot) as the conference league with far less games and far less travel.
And a Wembley final instead of 4k tickets abroad
Not just the club but some fans as well, too many are just ok with a training ground and the stadium and don't mind that we are not winning trophies.
In terms of footballing success. Brady and Sullivan have actually achieved more than Levy and Lewis.
It's indisputable and it's absolutely disgusting.
You are forgetting one of Levy’s greatest hits
Selling Modric , which I have no problem with , ( he stopped him going to Chelsea after all ) . However he told a monumental lie in my opinion about Spurs having a special relationship going forward with Madrid . There was no need to tell that porkie , it was a contemptuous way to treat the fans
Lol , I agree by the way , but it is not indisputable, well not to some of the ENIC are the embodiment of all that is righteous on here .
Incoming our stadium is sexy , their stadium is shit . We had to pay for our stadium , they got a free council house arguments .
We don't have to finish six points off relegation, to try and win something.
The club has underachieved, players have come up short a number of times, plus the board are not driven to win , only just doing enough where it counts.
Winning a league cup is fine by me, but unfortunately our team can't turn up to lower league teams away from home.
The amount of people who didn’t want the ECL next season now moaning about West Ham winning it.
What a bunch of fucking muppets we have as supporters.
Sort your fucking brains out.
What a bunch of fucking muppets we have as supporters.
Sort your fucking brains out.
Honestly it's hilarious some of the comments on here.
West Ham have been absolutely terrible all season, they've won a competition where they had to beat one decent team. Those silly Spammers fans have been wanting Moyes out all season!!
I could imagine the narrative if we had won it
"Super facilities FC for a 3rd rate European Trophy"
Reading some comments about Sullivan & Gold being more successful. That's proper over reaction but then again it's what I've come to expect on this thread.
What if West Ham somehow managed to win the Europa cup next season? It would be just more BS excuses.
But we didn't win, when we were in it we were one of the favorites but our performances were embarrassing. West Ham finished on a high, we were topped by Brighton and Villa.
Who had the better season out of us and west ham ? And I remind you that we won nothing and are not in Europe.
They couldn’t use their ground to show the match. As it’s not their ground….
Now they are about to sell their best player at his peak. Now imagine us doing that.
They won a competition 50% + of people on here didn’t even want to enter.
What’s their aim next year. With the EL to contend with? 4th? 6th? 10th?
The future doesn’t look great for them. Fair play they won a trophy. Does that make them massive??
Are they going to spend the Declan rice money buying Harry Kane. That’s their level now. Is it fuck.
We would. Our squad is not strong enough to compete at home and abroad. If we actually want to do both, it's a strong 11 in the premier league and the ropey league. 15 games they had to play to win that. That is THE reason they were in trouble in the league. They took the conference league seriously on a Thursday then struggled in the premier league at the weekend.
It's why Woolwich threw all the cups this season. They had an eye on the title and elected to go for it. They probably should have done it sooner, and may be then they wouldn't have run out of steam.
I have no idea how United's wage bill compares to ours.
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It’s double off the top of my head.
