Liverpool, though they got lucky with the Coutinho sale. We already have a high net spend btw, we just need to use it the right way.
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I would say Liverpool. They are a huge club but their owners were like us far from sugar daddies. They sold Coutinho and Suarez and put the cash into Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho and Mane and they came good under Klopp. That was an elite manager and elite recruitment on a budget.
It’s not just recruitment it’s also vision. We bought Lo Celso who looks like he fits Ange like a glove, unfortunately we gave Lo Celso to defensive managers that don’t fit him prior. You need the right players but with the right type of managers. Our lack of vision means even good recruitment on its own isn’t enough.
Agreed. I included them at first and then took them off as they had pretty significant spend on some players when they did go big. To your point, their scouting and more importantly their alignment of player to coach and system was done really well. They’re a great example of both smart decisions and spend coming together really well.
He posts a lot of opinion which people take as some kind of insider knowledge.
He’s called transfers well before others though.
He mentioned Vicario days before anyone else.
Modern football is from what I can see based on 3 main things.
1 vision
2 recruitment
3 spending
Man City have all 3 and thus dominate. Chelsea and Man United smash the spending and Brighton are great at 1/2.
Our recruitment in recent seasons hasn’t been bad or at least as bad as it was. Richarlison, Kulusevski, Bentancur, Porro, Udogie etc are all very good players but we still have holes (CB) and we have bought these players without thought in how we use them. I.e Conte didn’t want many of them it seems.
Our spending has increased and our recruitment appears to be getting better but all it takes is for the club to turn the ship around again and go from Angeball back to defensive football. We cannot win anything short term as we won’t buy or can’t buy the very best so we have to like Woolwich prepare a long term plan. This is where we normally fuck up as vision isn’t something Levy/Cullen and the rest of them have ever had.
Not denying that, he might get info about transfers from agents but from my understanding it's not from people inside the club.
Why do we have such a high net spend say in recent times compared to Man City? Is it because we are buying the best players or is it because we’re A) Not buying the players the manager wants B) Buying square pegs for round holes as they are the younger cheaper option C) Buying players for one manager only to sack him and the next not want that player D) Be completely unable to shift players not wanted as not willing to take a loss?
"Buying the players the manager wants" that's not a problem when your manager isn't a spoiled whiny cunt, most managers make do with the players given to them. It is true that we created a lot of deadwood by changing our system, the Mourinho / Conte experiment was without a doubt a failure, hopefully the board learned their lesson from that. And yes, we've been horrible at selling players.
We also don't have an academy as good as City, they make a lot of money from sales of youth players.
Simply put but on the button.
Pretty much seals the argument
Completely agree and this has been my biggest issue with how this club has been run for the past few seasons. It’s all been about the short-term and we ended up with the mess we have right now.
I kind of understood the logic the Jose as he was the right move if the feeling was that we needed just that extra addition of a proven winner to get us over the line. The reality was that our lack of investment under Poch was a short term financial play, Jose was always going to be a short term one as well, and a series of other short term decisions followed. You could maybe argue that Nuno wasn’t intended to be a short term appointment but it was complete incompetence.
Ange feels like a return to a long-game approach, which I’m very happy to see, but unless they support him with key additions it will end up being another short-term approach.
There are of course different definitions of "worse".
The "worst" kind for me would be the Saudis/Qatar owners.
I'm not willing to sell my soul, and my morals, for the sake of a bit of silver.
Many are, and they're entitled to that opinion, but even the thought of it is abhorrent to me.
It's really very simple.
It's because Enic have always, and will always insist on the club being self sufficient.
This means zero investment from the owners.
This is a completely separate thing from the FFP figures.
We have actually made a loss for the last two financial years.
Got to say that this is a fantastic post.
It explains everything and hits every nail on the head.
Our first game is on the TV, I believe.
I reckon I know what some of the first songs will be.
I reckon I know what some of the first songs will be.
"We've got super Danny Levy
He knows exactly what we need
Dier at the back , Richarlison in attack
Spurs on their way to champions league"
Yeh I hope we do. The big problem with vision is while it has by far the biggest growth it also comes with a clear downside, it requires discipline.
Once you pick a vision (style of play) you have to stick to it. In modern premier league football there are two main ways so called Kloppball and Pepball, in short one hard direct press attack German/Argentinian style and the other slower more patient Dutch total football and then you have managers like Arteta who are a bit in the middle.
That means not only do we need to be patient with Ange but when he leaves we have far less choice of managers as 70-80% of them won’t play Ange style of play. In effect you have Vincent Kompany, Arnie Slot and 1-2 others and that is all you have
Vision needs discipline from fans and most importantly the board. Our club is known for opportunism and that conflicts with vision, Levy and the board have to change. Vision means we have to move away from opportunism.
William McGonagall at his best.....