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It's such an unknown I almost get why they're undecided what to do.
I actually think companies like Coke advertising is dumb. Literally everyone knows what it is.
Sure, but I think you need to look at it over a longer period of time. If Coke immediately stopped advertising or throwing their brand all over the world, it's pretty likely that their sales may dip slightly in the next year, but they would still be a behemoth of a brand. The problem is that after 3 years or 5 years the drain just continues. They become less relevant and it just opens the door to another brand to fill that void, either current brands or a new one. A loss of market share starts to go from 1% to 3% to 5% to 10% and on.


Same as a lot of movie marketing. Why spend $100m advertising the 38th movie in the Avengers saga? We know it exists and we will see it if we've seen the other 37 movies and 1,083 TV shows.
Because sometimes it's not about the product as much as it is making it an event. Yes, if someone saw all 37 of the previous movies there is a good chance they'll watch the 38th. But the reality is that the advertising isn't for them, it's the millions of people that are open to ideas of where they are going to spend their disposable income this upcoming weekend.

Maybe they don't care about the Avengers, they never saw all of the originals, but they still want to go because "everyone" is talking about it and they want in on the action.

Sometimes I wonder if they spend that money not to advertise themselves, but to take up advertising space that others may benefit from.

That absolutely happens. Bringing it back to Spurs now what it really comes down to is building a simple hierarchy of importance. First step is awareness, second is building affinity, and thirdly it comes to instilling action.

Action would be purchasing streaming packages to watch games, buying merchandise, attending games, etc. You aren't going to do that unless you can get it opportunistically or you have built some type of affinity around the brand and product. Before you can even get there though you have to build awareness, and we're talking about awareness on a global stage.

Take the Beyonce conert for example. There are tens of millions of fans around the world that may or may not know about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, BUT when they look at her tour information they see her performing at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. When two NFL teams play in London, you have millions of fans who know nothing about the club seeing for weeks that they are playing in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and see the impressive facilities that they are playing at.

What would be the cost to reach those tens or hundreds of millions of casual people that you have now exposed to the club and name? I'm not sure but probably a whole lot more than some of the proposals that may have come our way.
 
That's not really a good excuse for why there has been no clear on the pitch strategy. If he finds the premier too tough he should sell up but he wont because he loves the money too much.

When Jol was getting 5th he put the pressure on to get 4th and already contacted Ramos during the summer to make him a 'dizzying offer'. He eventually hired Ramos, sold our best players, replaced them with Bent and Pav instead of Eto and Villa.
So from that time he didn't learn he went on to hire Conte and Mourinho and didn't back them, then it's a shock to him when things don't work out.
I don't think it's money. He could cash out for a huge sum now or hire a proper Chief Exec and cash cheques as Chairman still. He's like Kenwright, he loves being Chairman of a massive football club, and once he stops, it's retirement then the old folks home.
 
I don't think it's money. He could cash out for a huge sum now or hire a proper Chief Exec and cash cheques as Chairman still. He's like Kenwright, he loves being Chairman of a massive football club, and once he stops, it's retirement then the old folks home.
Can he? Who will buy us for 4 billion?
 
But we aren’t a consumer goods company that ebenfits directly in higher sales due to the brand awareness
Correct we aren't a consumer goods company, but we're a club that requires and has built multiple revenue streams. Brand awareness leads to additional merchandise sales, subscriptions to SpursPlay, attendance at home games and when travelling internationally, and maybe more importantly helps to build valuation in TV/streaming deals internationally as the team and club grow in other markets.

A greater sized fan base also equals more branding impressions for sponsors and advertisers as well, so you can also now charge more or advertising space in and around the stadium, on merchandise, and assorted other content channels.

There is also the softer and less tangible benefit of attractiveness to potential signings understanding that they are going to a club that may instantly and massively boost their worldwide personal brand as well. Just by joining their social media engagements and platform could increase by a staggering amount, which could do wonders for themselves personally.

It’s indirect benefit and less tangible. They might know the clubs name but so what? I get the mentions / sponsor point but that’s not the case yet (higher sponsorship deals than peers). I also struggle to believe that any of these bens outweigh the 30M per year we would get for stadium rights

Do we know if anyone has actually offered 30 million at this point? What if the highest so far was 15? As Levy stated if the right partner at the right price comes along I'm sure we'll do it, but it need to offer more than what we're getting right now out of name/brand exposure.
 
I think a big problem with Levy is the total lack of transparency...hopefully Ange's open and honest approach to every question asked is rubbing off a bit, we've actually learned more about the running of the club in the last week than in the ten years previously...the cunt should be publicly held to account more often...
 
Correct we aren't a consumer goods company, but we're a club that requires and has built multiple revenue streams. Brand awareness leads to additional merchandise sales, subscriptions to SpursPlay, attendance at home games and when travelling internationally, and maybe more importantly helps to build valuation in TV/streaming deals internationally as the team and club grow in other markets.

A greater sized fan base also equals more branding impressions for sponsors and advertisers as well, so you can also now charge more or advertising space in and around the stadium, on merchandise, and assorted other content channels.

There is also the softer and less tangible benefit of attractiveness to potential signings understanding that they are going to a club that may instantly and massively boost their worldwide personal brand as well. Just by joining their social media engagements and platform could increase by a staggering amount, which could do wonders for themselves personally.



Do we know if anyone has actually offered 30 million at this point? What if the highest so far was 15? As Levy stated if the right partner at the right price comes along I'm sure we'll do it, but it need to offer more than what we're getting right now out of name/brand exposure.
Im not at all convinced on the Spursplay, tickets thing…. I guess membership is the big money spinner but I don’t see global awareness driving that up much

My point is if he was offered a half decent deal on naming rights he would take it
 
Im not at all convinced on the Spursplay, tickets thing…. I guess membership is the big money spinner but I don’t see global awareness driving that up much

My point is if he was offered a half decent deal on naming rights he would take it

I agree that we would absolutely sign a deal for naming rights, but it’s really a matter of what the line in the sand is for the price. I don’t think Levy will play in the world of half-decent, but if he did his idea of half decent would be far different from ours. He will expect full valuation of what he thinks it’s worth, and at a minimum needs to be as much as we value having our name attached.
 
Advertising is psychological and is ultimately conditioning and manipulation. There's a reason most people thing of certain things by default with brands/items and whilst most people call their hoover a hoover, when it's actually a vacuum cleaner. Hoover is the brand.

We humans are incredibly susceptible to it. Which is why they spend millions doing it.
This really annoys me.
 

View: https://x.com/footballdaily/status/1705158475754455222?s=20

Again, happy to remind everyone that Levy fucked it royally the last 4 years on Jose and Conte but the way he described the Kane deal, he played it right and got great money for a player that probably wanted to walk on a free.

Tough decision to make.

There was no choice really. The dream would have been kane signing a new contract once he saw Ange ball working but the risk was City come in for him in January offering an incredible signing on fee and wage and guaranteed trophies and the premier league goal scoring record, everything Kane might want, and he leaves us for nothing, elevating our rivals. Imagine watching that week in week out for years…at least looking at his exploits for Bayern it is like watching an episode of Loki where Kane is in a parallel universe, and it doesn’t directly affect you. Plus Levy got £100M for the club. So he did well in the circumstances. Those circumstances should never have developed in the first place of course. That’s on Levy, but also kane I think for wanting Jose, Conte types.
 
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