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Remember guys, we’re 8th on the xG table and that’s what really matters
 
Same stuff that was said under Conte is being said now by the same posters.

The style is very different but the frailties are all still there. Villa and City could see us fall out of the top four entirely.

Do you expect us to finish 8th this season?

Do you expect our players to get worse this season?

Do you expect our players or our manager to down tools this season?

Do you expect our injured key players to be out for the entire season?

Do you expect us not to strengthen in January?

If the answers are no to all of those questions then you'll realise that this is nothing like last season and the situations are entirely different unless you're just moaning at the sake of moaning at things that haven't happened yet which is clearly some faux outrage.
 
Do you expect us to finish 8th this season?

Do you expect our players to get worse this season?

Do you expect our players or our manager to down tools this season?

Do you expect our injured key players to be out for the entire season?

Do you expect us not to strengthen in January?

If the answers are no to all of those questions then you'll realise that this is nothing like last season and the situations are entirely different unless you're just moaning at the sake of moaning at things that haven't happened yet which is clearly some faux outrage.

7th.
 
If that's what you're wishing for to be proven right then I can't help you.

You give off rival fan vibes.

Why would making a prediction mean I want to be proven right lol? That’s where I think we will finish.

I don’t think that’s bad on Ange’s part. The squad is hideously overrated on here and lean as hell.

Our underlying numbers aren’t great either, and our fixtures have been comfortable. I expect a fall off and that’s fine.
 
Why would making a prediction mean I want to be proven right lol? That’s where I think we will finish.

I don’t think that’s bad on Ange’s part. The squad is hideously overrated on here and lean as hell.

Our underlying numbers aren’t great either, and our fixtures have been comfortable. I expect a fall off and that’s fine.

Our underlying numbers are skewed by the Chelsea and Wolves matches (we won't go through the entire season with 9 men on the pitch and Maddison and VdV are out for a couple of months ) , the attacking numbers were more than fine, the defensive numbers were a little concerning but that's expected from a new defence and new system, you're acting as if our players won't improve in time.

This is why perspective is needed, there's probably one match you'd say we've been lucky in (Man Utd) I mean it's not as if we're playing shit and being bailed out by Kane and Son every week which shows it's sustainable.
 
Why would making a prediction mean I want to be proven right lol? That’s where I think we will finish.

I don’t think that’s bad on Ange’s part. The squad is hideously overrated on here and lean as hell.

Our underlying numbers aren’t great either, and our fixtures have been comfortable. I expect a fall off and that’s fine.

Im not sure most sensible fans are over rating the squad.

Did people give props to those who stepped in during the Chelsea game and played their hearts out for the team - of course they did. Did that change how most fans rated the squad players overall? nope.

Lo Celso is not rated
Dier is not rated
Hojbjerg as a starter in Ange's system without a creative mid is not rated.
Davies has and always been rated fairly.

I just don't see the over rating your talking of however our best 11 when fit is rated appropriately in my opinion.

Most of those are relatively new to Spurs and our squad, if continued to be built in the same vein will be highly competitive.
 
There is a rancid culture of over-dramatising where we are as a club, especially after a loss or two.

The idea that bar one or two seasons over the last however many, we have been mediocre in any way shape or form is frankly ludicrous. There is a consistent attempt to redefine what the word mediocre means and those who do not prescribe to the most ardent anti-enicers rhetoric and mental gymnastics about where Spurs actually stands in the world of football get called out for being something they are not.

No mediocre football team gets into Europe consistently for 11 out of 12 years.

Medicore performances - sure - every club has them
Medicore football - sure - every club can play mediocre football.

But a mediocre club? Just a dramatic reaction by people that don't know how to deal with losing a game of football. Seriously - think about it. Grown up individuals who do not know how to mentally deal with the team they support not winning a game of football. Not even a game they play themselves but a game played by other grown-ups which they have 0 control over.

The idea that fans like myself cannot have a balanced, nuanced view of where we are without being accused of being ENIC fans just shows the mentality of those who accuse us. Childish, pathetic, short-sighted individuals that hide behind keyboards 'venting' the same old, boring shite without doing a single fucking thing about it.

Honestly, if I cared as much about something as these posters claim to care about getting rid of the owners and literally did nothing about it but repetitively talk about it online using the same comments and tired old insults, I'd have to question how much i actually care about it and whether or not i was just addicted to moaning.

Stop pretending like you are the bastion of neutrality. You've got biases just like everyone else in this thread.
 
Stop pretending like you are the bastion of neutrality. You've got biases just like everyone else in this thread.

Who said I don't?

Do you think there is a culture of Toxic Medicority in the club?

I think we need to have done more at pivotal times to push the club into a position where we could win trophies.

But a club that hires Jose and Conte isn't one that has mediocrity as its final destination.

It's a club that was being incredibly naieve about what it takes to win and it very much pissed me off that we hired managers that did not fit in with out footballing philosophy or with the players at the club.
 
There is a rancid culture of over-dramatising where we are as a club, especially after a loss or two.

The idea that bar one or two seasons over the last however many, we have been mediocre in any way shape or form is frankly ludicrous. There is a consistent attempt to redefine what the word mediocre means and those who do not prescribe to the most ardent anti-enicers rhetoric and mental gymnastics about where Spurs actually stands in the world of football get called out for being something they are not.

No mediocre football team gets into Europe consistently for 11 out of 12 years.

Medicore performances - sure - every club has them
Medicore football - sure - every club can play mediocre football.

But a mediocre club? Just a dramatic reaction by people that don't know how to deal with losing a game of football. Seriously - think about it. Grown up individuals who do not know how to mentally deal with the team they support not winning a game of football. Not even a game they play themselves but a game played by other grown-ups which they have 0 control over.

The idea that fans like myself cannot have a balanced, nuanced view of where we are without being accused of being ENIC fans just shows the mentality of those who accuse us. Childish, pathetic, short-sighted individuals that hide behind keyboards 'venting' the same old, boring shite without doing a single fucking thing about it.

Honestly, if I cared as much about something as these posters claim to care about getting rid of the owners and literally did nothing about it but repetitively talk about it online using the same comments and tired old insults, I'd have to question how much i actually care about it and whether or not i was just addicted to moaning.
Peeped the first sentence, then didn't read another word of the inevitable, subsequent, bollock-head licking drivel.

You and the rest of the gonad-head cum-guzzling brigade can gtfo with that Bald Cunt.

Not having any of it.

#ZeroTolerance

#ToxicMediocrity
 
Peeped the first sentence, then didn't read another word of the inevitable, subsequent, bollock-head licking drivel.

You and the rest of the gonad-head cum-guzzling brigade can gtfo with that Bald Cunt.

Not having any of it.

#ZeroTolerance

#ToxicMediocrity

milk caveman GIF
 
Peeped the first sentence, then didn't read another word of the inevitable, subsequent, bollock-head licking drivel.

You and the rest of the gonad-head cum-guzzling brigade can gtfo with that Bald Cunt.

Not having any of it.

#ZeroTolerance

#ToxicMediocrity

Our fanbase doesn't have a toxic mentality of mediocrity though.

Who accepted what was happening under Poch at the end of his tenure? Who accepted Nuno? Who wanted Conte to stay?

Fans demanded change last season. In the last 4 windows, we have been working on, quite successfully I might add, completely overhauling our scouting and squad. We are 2-3 windows away from completing that overhaul with some seriously good youth waiting in the wings.

Toxicity was booing Royal and Sanchez but even that hadn't nothing to do with accepting mediocrity.

Your assertion that our fans have a mentality of toxic mediocrity based on them not ousting the owners successfully is an opinion that most fans would disagree with, making your opinion flat-out wrong.
 
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Hey skywalker68 noticed you disagreed. As I was the one that was in A&E and he WAS the one laughing, I feel I'm more likely to know what the fuck that wanker did than you. Although if you'd been paying attention you'd have seen the posts on various threads.

So do one... :dembelefingers:
Sorry I don't pay attention to you, nobody does, so fuck off.👍
 
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