I sense another 'rebuild' to delay sporting expectations
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Yeah, course I will.
Zomb , I'm as Levy out as you or anyone mate. But wishing death or personal tragedy on the man is beyond the pale in my opinion.
My advice? Delete the post. But it's obviously your call.
I suppose that, levy was at least honest up front about his intentions for the club.A timely reminder why we've become a laughing stock that doesn't win anything on the pitch, but make lots of money off it.
They were and still are, lacking in any sporting success on the field.
This hasn't changed in 23 years, and will never change.
So as I see it our plight is the fault of
Graham
Hoddle
Santini
Jol
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos
Sherwood
Mason
Jose
Conte
Nuno
Ange
Probably missing a few , it’s hard to keep track . We cannot afford to have all these useless people as managers . We really need a man at the top running the club for an extended period say 24 years minimum to provide stability . Right now there is nobody to blame for hiring and firing the above names, I wish there was
Graham
Hoddle
Santini
Jol
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos
Sherwood
Mason
Jose
Conte
Nuno
Ange
Probably missing a few , it’s hard to keep track . We cannot afford to have all these useless people as managers . We really need a man at the top running the club for an extended period say 24 years minimum to provide stability . Right now there is nobody to blame for hiring and firing the above names, I wish there was
So as I see it our plight is the fault of
Graham
Hoddle
Santini
Jol
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos
Sherwood
Mason
Jose
Conte
Nuno
Ange
Probably missing a few , it’s hard to keep track . We cannot afford to have all these useless people as managers . We really need a man at the top running the club for an extended period say 24 years minimum to provide stability . Right now there is nobody to blame for hiring and firing the above names, I wish there was
You could add Pleat to the list, he was 'caretaker'. for the year it took Levy to come up with Santini.
Mason deserves a place, as Levy thought he deserved to manage us in a cup final.
Stellini, maybe.
Mason Mk2 ?
So that's 17 and counting
With the latest mug on a 4 game losing streak
Patience is key though
Mate
And Pleat before him
Well it worked for Chelsea eh?
They won the lot after Matthew Harding died...
Kinda went the other way for Leicester after theirs though, didn't it...?
Is that what you were 'hoping for'?
Mind you, I remember the when Ken Bates was about to sell Stamford Bridge for £1 or summit, and they were on the brink of completely going under...
Then Roman came in and saved the day...
It's all Swings & Rotorblades I guess!!
Still a bit of a cunty thing to say though! Fatal or not fatal!
So as I see it our plight is the fault of
Graham
Hoddle
Santini
Jol
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos
Sherwood
Mason
Jose
Conte
Nuno
Ange
Probably missing a few , it’s hard to keep track . We cannot afford to have all these useless people as managers . We really need a man at the top running the club for an extended period say 24 years minimum to provide stability . Right now there is nobody to blame for hiring and firing the above names, I wish there was
Call me naive, but I STILL don't get why someone who wants to create a global, entertainment and sporting empire WOULDN'T want a successful, winning team at the heart of that?A timely reminder why we've become a laughing stock that doesn't win anything on the pitch, but make lots of money off it.
Investing in Hotels, Go Karts Rick concerts is only gonna get you SO far without a winning team at the core of it... so why would you deliberately set out a model that involved a team that under achieve and don't win ANYTHING!
It simply doesn't make sense?
...and when you think about the amount Levy/ENIC have spent on ALL those managers, buying lesser players on their recommendations, them having to pay them off each time they're fired... wouldn't that ALL have amounted to a couple of World class, Marquee signings, and a top TOP Manager to coach them?
Levy and Lewis are many things, but they're not idiots!
They only have to take one look at the world's biggest football 'brands' and see the success that each has had to EARN that global status....
Real Madrid
Barca
Bayern
Liverpool
Man Utd
Juventus
AC Milan....
Surely success and even GREATER financial rewards go hand in hand??
I did some research, just to check I wasn't making a ridiculous point!
The biggest clubs in the world
What defines a big football club? And which are the biggest? A look at the greatest teams across the world in the men's game...
www.fourfourtwo.com
We're 16th, in case you can't be bothered trawling through the others!
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Yep. No point in having a shit team and a lovely stadium. Itll hit levy in the pockets only way itll wake him upCall me naive, but I STILL don't get why someone who wants to create a global, entertainment and sporting empire WOULDN'T want a successful, winning team at the heart of that?
Investing in Hotels, Go Karts Rick concerts is only gonna get you SO far without a winning team at the core of it...
...and when you think about the amount Levy/ENIC have spent on ALL those managers, buying lesser players on their recommendations, them having to pay them off each time they're fired... wouldn't that ALL have amounted to a couple of World class, Marquee signings, and a top TOP Manager to coach them?
Levy and Lewis are many things, but they're not idiots!
They only have to take one look at the world's biggest football 'brands' and see the success that each has had to EARN that global status....
Real Madrid
Barca
Bayern
Liverpool
Man Utd
Juventus
AC Milan
Surely success, and financial rewards go hand in hand??
I did some research, just to check I wasn't making a ridiculous point!
The biggest clubs in the world
What defines a big football club? And which are the biggest? A look at the greatest teams across the world in the men's game...
We're 16th, in case you can't be bothered trawling through the others!
I think they see the club as a useful vehicle for exploiting growth and maximising revenue from other sporting and non sporting events off our back.
A fine example being the words of Aiden Mulally, (Levy's head of business development) "Its an NFL stadium built primarily with NFL in mind. Spurs are just the anchor Tennants, but the goal is to land a NFL franchise in London"
Of course they need the club to be in the Premier League, and towards the upper end for commercial reasons, but they'll never invest what it really takes to actually win. They can afford to, but they don't need to.
So long as they reap the rewards from charging the highest ticket prices in Europe while lining their pockets from high profile concerts, NFL, boxing events etc. etc, and expanding their property empire in our name, they don't need to do anything different with regards to the football team.
Especially when you have a fan base full of the Shadyfixxes of this world.
A fine example being the words of Aiden Mulally, (Levy's head of business development) "Its an NFL stadium built primarily with NFL in mind. Spurs are just the anchor Tennants, but the goal is to land a NFL franchise in London"
Of course they need the club to be in the Premier League, and towards the upper end for commercial reasons, but they'll never invest what it really takes to actually win. They can afford to, but they don't need to.
So long as they reap the rewards from charging the highest ticket prices in Europe while lining their pockets from high profile concerts, NFL, boxing events etc. etc, and expanding their property empire in our name, they don't need to do anything different with regards to the football team.
Especially when you have a fan base full of the Shadyfixxes of this world.
You say 'hit him in the pockets'
...that would indicate LOSING money, which I don't think he wil.... this model clearly doesn't lose money....
I'm talking about achieving success, and trophies with a football team, which would surely bring in EVEN MORE money!!
Seeing as that's the only language he understands?
Successful club, happy fans, happy fans = spending more = Happy Daniel & Joe
But but but... I HATE the NFL, have absolutely zero interest in it...
The same as most Murricans have zero interest in Soccer Ball, let alone the North London Hotspurs!
I might have to find me a new club after all!
Phoenix Spurs anyone??
One important thing to remember (not that anyone has forgot) is that Levy/Enic are ALL about the money and nothing else. People go on about backing Ange in the summer and there maybe a little bit of money available but we need to remember it's about top 4 and nothing else.
If we got top 4 we'd get a certain amount of money but would we get drastically more if we finished 1st? not enough so that Levy would spend big to get us there, it's the reason why we never pushed on in the Poch era because they were chuffed we had regular CL income and they didn't see the need to spend more money beyond that.
If we got top 4 we'd get a certain amount of money but would we get drastically more if we finished 1st? not enough so that Levy would spend big to get us there, it's the reason why we never pushed on in the Poch era because they were chuffed we had regular CL income and they didn't see the need to spend more money beyond that.
But I thought the other day you were digging me out for not going to matches? In that case why would fans like me make a difference if I'm not affecting their bottom line?
The only fans who can make a difference are the ones who don't want the board in and have the ability to do something about it yet spend money in thr stadium and on merchandise.
But that won't change regardless, fans are little upset now because they're emotional beings but come the new season optimism will be rife again especially when the new kit is unveiled along with new players and repeat etc...
Why are you shouting when i clearly agree with what you are saying
Which was exactly my point. Thanks for clarifying.
There's no need or pressure on ENIC to achieve any meaningful success.
And so the cycle of on pitch failure and off pitch profit and expansion continues.