Love the way someone has accurately shown, the football side of the business has gone flat and not important.
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An interesting chat led by Jack PB on VFTL how our floor 7/8th) and ceiling (4th) are closer together than any other PL club. I hadn’t really thought of it like that before and I think it’s a huge part of the problem. It’s all so uninspiring. It is probably true. However it is why we should prioritise the cups. But Levy wants fourth, it’s our title to him.
It leaves us all so utterly fucked as fans as it means we don’t go for the cups because levy wants us to chase fourth and is happy in this cycle. It’s not going to change.
It leaves us all so utterly fucked as fans as it means we don’t go for the cups because levy wants us to chase fourth and is happy in this cycle. It’s not going to change.
Guess it’s fifth this season not fourth?
The football team will just become another Everton type club. Always in the PL but never any good. The chequebook will only ever come out to avoid trouble, not to push on.
With so much money coming in from concerts etc, the football team is no longer the focal point, so it'll be a side show in the grand ENIC/Levy business.
If we lose 2 or 3 of our next 6, we should be sacking the manager and making changes.
If we don't then i think it confirms this belief that the football team doesn't need to be successful for ENIC to win.
Keep sacking the manager every year until we win something? Doesn't sound like a sustainable model to me but you probably know a lot more than our current owners
Keeping a manager who is in no way capable of sustaining a challenge on the top 6 of the league is no better. If anything, it's worse.
I don't really see that as a debate.
Yes the club is remarkably well calibrated to finish between 4-7th. An example in corporate efficiency. It's why many of us feel so frustrated by it. All a bit "meh". This is, indeed, IT.
I genuinely would've liked to experience the recent Leicester roller coaster of promotion, relegation scrap, title win, European appearances , FA Cup win, relegation, promotion, signing Oliver Skipp. At least we'd feel a lot more.
Highest net spend (2015-2024)
1. Manchester United - £1.08billion (€1.3bn)
2. Chelsea - £1.07billion (€1.2bn)
3. PSG - £825million (€991m)
4. Woolwich - £661million (€795m)
5. Tottenham - £591million (€711m)
6. Manchester City - £585million (€703m)
7. AC Milan - £527million (€633m)
8. Newcastle United - £521million (€626m)
9. Barcelona - £500m (€601m)
10. Al-Hilal - £462million (€556m)
11. West Ham - £456million (€548m)
13. Aston Villa - £433million (€521m)
16. Bournemouth - £318million (€383m)
17. Liverpool - £304million (€366m)
18. Crystal Palace - £301million (€363m)
20. Wolves - £287million (€345m)
The above which includes time before the new stadium rather scuppers the argument about not spending on the team.
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And money spent on wages in that period? I suspect we are well down that list in comparison.
Did not show that, but Kane was well paid and it is because he went that wages have reduced last season.
Is the club already at that stage to a lesser degree?
Are we not a southern version of Everton, a rich man's west ham if you like.
I don't ever see the club getting relegated under ENIC, but at the same time , club will never achieve anything either.
Villa chairman has come out in support of City. And Egypt’s richest man does not see the problem he is part of. What a surprise.
Against these realities and regimes we have Danny Boy trying to stop the madness of spending, doing all he can to reign everyone else in. Why? for our good or his? Does this maximise his profits as he cannot spend or does it protect us because he cannot do a Brewster’s millions ?
What’s the benefit of being the abstained in an orgy or excess?
The only benefit is to protect profits over glory is my conclusion.
The most chronic reality of ENIC is that they operate in such an orgy of excess that it enables them to get away with piss poor decisions on top of piss poor decisions and still make profit. I can’t help but feel if Levy got his way and everyone else was forced to act like him ( penny wise pound foolish ) it would actually be the one thing that exposes this utter sham.
PS. Such was my anger over Ipswich that Roma was out of my head. Weirdly today I thought I would have a look at the option of going.
Eye watering prices and empty seats. What else can one look for to prove that this approach is no longer working ?
Against these realities and regimes we have Danny Boy trying to stop the madness of spending, doing all he can to reign everyone else in. Why? for our good or his? Does this maximise his profits as he cannot spend or does it protect us because he cannot do a Brewster’s millions ?
What’s the benefit of being the abstained in an orgy or excess?
The only benefit is to protect profits over glory is my conclusion.
The most chronic reality of ENIC is that they operate in such an orgy of excess that it enables them to get away with piss poor decisions on top of piss poor decisions and still make profit. I can’t help but feel if Levy got his way and everyone else was forced to act like him ( penny wise pound foolish ) it would actually be the one thing that exposes this utter sham.
PS. Such was my anger over Ipswich that Roma was out of my head. Weirdly today I thought I would have a look at the option of going.
Eye watering prices and empty seats. What else can one look for to prove that this approach is no longer working ?
Found this on Reddit - not current but seemingly from 2022
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/12xkzsm/premier_league_5year_net_transfer_spend_plus/
Since I last logged on yesterday, 37 has become 38!
Shite owners and a decent manager is still preferable to shite owners and a shite manager, bro.
I switched , I’m going deep deep deep undercoverSince I last logged on yesterday, 37 has become 38!
Should work as long as nobody reads this post
EDIT : Just got a smilie , my covers blown , fuck fuck fuck.
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Levy could shit in their cornflakes and they'd claim it was chocolate milkSince I last logged on yesterday, 37 has become 38!
We have been a top 6 club for 10-15 years. Everton have done it a handful of times. They hardly ever have European football.
But I could see us falling out of that group of teams and being 7th-12th most seasons.