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The manager situation is interesting and is the one single thing that gives me the tiniest glimmer of hope that something is in the offing.
I mean, it's pretty clear we have the worst manager we've had in decades, or at least one that's presiding over the worst run of form...But Levy steadfastly sticks by him.
Just maybe he's aware that any new owners will want to Install their own man, which is why he's holding back from swinging the axe?
Yes I have thought the same, he should have gone long ago like the rest have.
 

Good luck with the tube station! Northern Line extension to BPS cost £1.1bn, with £270m coming from developers, and most of the rest being a public loan (financed through tax on Londoners). BPS has huge visitor numbers though - far far more than our stadium, and the line extension served adjacent areas that are undergoing massive development.

I can see the cost of a Victoria Line spur, but can't see correspondingly large benefits.
 
Not many companies and or people could afford, that type of investment needed to buy a football club.
In any case, we have probably missed the boat on big spending owners similar to newcastle has found.
But even if, the investment allows for 2/3 bigger buys than purchasing teenager's then, it could get us a bit further forward.
Obviously would need another manager in place to take it forward.
I've said before that going to the average of Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool's player wage bill, would be transformative for us.

It would allow a c50% increase in wages - about £50m pa. Lose Werner and that goes nearer £60m. That is 5-6 elite players on top of the existing squad (minus Werner).
 
Good luck with the tube station! Northern Line extension to BPS cost £1.1bn, with £270m coming from developers, and most of the rest being a public loan (financed through tax on Londoners). BPS has huge visitor numbers though - far far more than our stadium, and the line extension served adjacent areas that are undergoing massive development.

I can see the cost of a Victoria Line spur, but can't see correspondingly large benefits.
Let’s not forget how much a British government bends over to Gulf states, though. Like the Torys waving through the Newcastle Saudi deal because of the arms contracts in play.
 
Personally I hope to hell we don’t get bought by Qatar
Yeah , let’s stick with Joe Lewis . Out of interest judging by his behaviour as just a plain old billionaire. How do you think he would be as a person who had total power over an entire country, where cheap labour could be imported and exploited ? I am sure he would set about giving the population more freedom and insist on establishing union representation of the downtrodden workforce .

I am not saying the Qataris are great , but let’s not pretend our owner gives us some kind of moral high ground . IMHO give Lewis the power of an unchallenged monarch and we would be desperately looking around for Robin Hood .
 
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I've said before that going to the average of Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool's player wage bill, would be transformative for us.

It would allow a c50% increase in wages - about £50m pa. Lose Werner and that goes nearer £60m. That is 5-6 elite players on top of the existing squad (minus Werner).

Love the way Werner gets mentioned twice in that post in the current calamities of the club.
 
I've said before that going to the average of Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool's player wage bill, would be transformative for us.

It would allow a c50% increase in wages - about £50m pa. Lose Werner and that goes nearer £60m. That is 5-6 elite players on top of the existing squad (minus Werner).
Really would make a difference to potential future success.
Certainly has to be better than this mid table shit we have now.
This takeover couldn't come soon enough imo.
 
Let’s not forget how much a British government bends over to Gulf states, though. Like the Torys waving through the Newcastle Saudi deal because of the arms contracts in play.
But that's conceding something of no financial cost (in fact of financial gain) for something that is financially beneficial.

This is spending money when the country is broke on something that probably doesn't stack up anyway. London would have a very long list of unbuilt transport infra projects ahead (i.e. better in ROI terms) of Victoria Line spur to the stadium.
 
Personally I hope to hell we don’t get bought by Qatar
Who else can afford us? Its owners like that or Levy/ENIC for another decade or two. I used to be against this type of ownership but football screwed itself a long time ago. Besides you cant just buy success like you used too, it can help but PSR has reigned it in so we'll still have to earn it. Think its pretty exciting tbh. Imagine owners that want to win and prioritise football.
 
Who else can afford us? Its owners like that or Levy/ENIC for another decade or two. I used to be against this type of ownership but football screwed itself a long time ago. Besides you cant just buy success like you used too, it can help but PSR has reigned it in so we'll still have to earn it. Think its pretty exciting tbh. Imagine owners that want to win and prioritise football.
Yeah, my opposition to this sort of thing dwindled a long time ago. Football is the plaything of the oligarchy these days. Qatar may be an authoritarian state, but it will evolve like all states do. Just like the bloody countries of the west did. Although, the way things are going, seems like we’re sliding back to bloody and violent authoritarianism sooner or later too.
 
Heard today that the al Sabah family (Royal family of Kuwait) are wishing to get involved in football. No mention of us though, just my connection surmising. FWIW, they are a touch wealthier than the al Thani family of Qatar, but complete paupers compared to the House of Saud.
 
The manager situation is interesting and is the one single thing that gives me the tiniest glimmer of hope that something is in the offing.
I mean, it's pretty clear we have the worst manager we've had in decades, or at least one that's presiding over the worst run of form...But Levy steadfastly sticks by him.
Just maybe he's aware that any new owners will want to Install their own man, which is why he's holding back from swinging the axe?

I think the recent activity of share in December shows something is a foot
 
Heard today that the al Sabah family (Royal family of Kuwait) are wishing to get involved in football. No mention of us though, just my connection surmising. FWIW, they are a touch wealthier than the al Thani family of Qatar, but complete paupers compared to the House of Saud.
Tbh, I think the fact that the Qataris have a load of experience and mistakes gained from PSG is better for us than a complete newbie.
 
Yeah, my opposition to this sort of thing dwindled a long time ago. Football is the plaything of the oligarchy these days. Qatar may be an authoritarian state, but it will evolve like all states do. Just like the bloody countries of the west did. Although, the way things are going, seems like we’re sliding back to bloody and violent authoritarianism sooner or later too.
I don't think you can assume with any certainty or confidence that Qatar will become less objectionable, such that any ethical concerns during a potential period of ownership (say next 20 -30 years) would be significantly allayed.

In general, I'm against it, but I also loathe the gouging of the current regime, and they aren't the nicest guys in the world. Hard to see a good solution. I doubt the investment in the team will be any worse under new owners at least.
 
I don't think you can assume with any certainty or confidence that Qatar will become less objectionable, such that any ethical concerns during a potential period of ownership (say next 20 -30 years) would be significantly allayed.

In general, I'm against it, but I also loathe the gouging of the current regime, and they aren't the nicest guys in the world. Hard to see a good solution. I doubt the investment in the team will be any worse under new owners at least.
Oh, defo not in the next 20 years. I’m talking centuries. It’s just an ebb and flow of civilisation.
 
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