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Bill Madrid said:
Really can't wait to see similar scenes in N17...

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Yeah, fair enough.

Another 25 years of the Levy / Lewis family cartel is far more appetising
... :levystare:


Fuck trophies and winning. Overrated.

Profits, Go Karts and NFL is where the real glory is...💪
 
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i bet in levys mind when he was sorting the training ground, that this was going to be a gamechanger. you can tell just by listening to him that hes not a football person, he probably thought that the training facilities being top notch would mean we would make more world class players (bale, modric, kane, berba)...these dont become world class players due to training facilities, they already had the innate talent to become world class....


the training facilities are a pull for the club when attracting players, no doubt about that, and they will help improve players but only minimally. players improve by playing with better players day in day out. when youre going out and spending 50m on players like johnson, it doesnt matter what the training facilities are like, youre shit.


if youve got people that havent got a clue and cant tell what a good player is, in charge of recruitment, youre fucked! stadiums and training grounds are irrelevant.
 
daveyboy88 said:
i bet in levys mind when he was sorting the training ground, that this was going to be a gamechanger. you can tell just by listening to him that hes not a football person, he probably thought that the training facilities being top notch would mean we would make more world class players (bale, modric, kane, berba)...these dont become world class players due to training facilities, they already had the innate talent to become world class....


the training facilities are a pull for the club when attracting players, no doubt about that, and they will help improve players but only minimally. players improve by playing with better players day in day out. when youre going out and spending 50m on players like johnson, it doesnt matter what the training facilities are like, youre shit.


if youve got people that havent got a clue and cant tell what a good player is, in charge of recruitment, youre fucked! stadiums and training grounds are irrelevant.
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Good coaches will improve any player, trouble is there are too few good thinking coaches, its a bit of a closed shop stopping non pro footballers breaking into pro coachng setups, so you get coaches that don't think about what/why they are doing stuff
 
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John Thomas said:
If only our owners cared about winning, eh?


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Hold on, let's not get too carried away here. It's their first major trophy in 70 years!

There's loads of things to use to beat ENIC/Levy with, Newcastle is not one of them.

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SpiderSpurs said:
Hold on, let's not get too carried away here. It's their first major trophy in 70 years!

There's loads of things to use to beat ENIC/Levy with, Newcastle is not one of them.

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Since they got taken over by the new owners they’ve won a trophy in double quick time and have established themselves extremely quickly as a top 4 contender.

That despite being blocked/obstructed by FFP thus facing windows of doing very little.
 
Deuterz said:
Since they got taken over by the new owners they’ve won a trophy in double quick time and have established themselves extremely quickly as a top 4 contender.

That despite being blocked/obstructed by FFP thus facing windows of doing very little.
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Superb post, nailed it in just a couple of paragraphs. We have been told that winning is hard, yet Newcastle has shown us with ambition aligned with a good coach and signings, what can be achieved, winning isn't that hard.
 
skywalker68 said:
Superb post, nailed it in just a couple of paragraphs. We have been told that winning is hard, yet Newcastle has shown us with ambition aligned with a good coach and signings, what can be achieved, winning isn't that hard.
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FFS, they've won one trophy, you all talk as though they've done the treble or something. They are one game different to us so far - we have had several finals in the last 10 years, and lost them all (not to mention loads of semi-finals). Are you seriously saying that Newcastle are better-run than us, more ambitious than us, simply because they have won one cup final when we lost all of ours?

As the other poster quite rightly said earlier, there are plenty of reasons to beat up Levy / ENIC - Newcastle, and them winning a single cup final, is NOT one of them.

Winning consistently definitely is very hard, hence why hardly any clubs have done it in the last 20 years. If Newcastle have 2 more trophies in 2 years time then I'll happily accept they've been better managed to do so (from the top I mean, not just Steady Eddie). Winning the odd rare trophy needs a lot of luck, something we didn't get when we (to be fair) ballsed up our finals in recent years. Newcastle faced an unusually out-of-sorts Liverpool who on any other day would have battered them.
 
scarletjim said:
FFS, they've won one trophy, you all talk as though they've done the treble or something. They are one game different to us so far - we have had several finals in the last 10 years, and lost them all (not to mention loads of semi-finals). Are you seriously saying that Newcastle are better-run than us, more ambitious than us, simply because they have won one cup final when we lost all of ours?

As the other poster quite rightly said earlier, there are plenty of reasons to beat up Levy / ENIC - Newcastle, and them winning a single cup final, is NOT one of them.

Winning consistently definitely is very hard, hence why hardly any clubs have done it in the last 20 years. If Newcastle have 2 more trophies in 2 years time then I'll happily accept they've been better managed to do so (from the top I mean, not just Steady Eddie). Winning the odd rare trophy needs a lot of luck, something we didn't get when we (to be fair) ballsed up our finals in recent years. Newcastle faced an unusually out-of-sorts Liverpool who on any other day would have battered them.
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Off the pitch financially we are probably better run.
But on it, most definitely they are in a better place than our club,if anyone doesn't think so then I really don't know what to say to them.
 
skywalker68 said:
Off the pitch financially we are probably better run.
But on it, most definitely they are in a better place than our club,if anyone doesn't think so then I really don't know what to say to them.
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I don't disagree that they are better than us on the pitch right now, but that's not what your post was saying at all. You were saying that them winning one trophy proves their ambition - given that there is only one match difference between winning and losing a cup final, that's a pretty dumb thing to say, it's too simple, and doesn't make sense as a differentiation to us (given that we have reached several finals). Winning IS hard, otherwise everyone would be doing it, and winning consistently (which Newcastle haven't done yet) is VERY hard, and those on here who regularly mock that suggestion must just be thick, the data of how few teams achieve consistent success is there for all to see...
 
scarletjim said:
I don't disagree that they are better than us on the pitch right now, but that's not what your post was saying at all. You were saying that them winning one trophy proves their ambition - given that there is only one match difference between winning and losing a cup final, that's a pretty dumb thing to say, it's too simple, and doesn't make sense as a differentiation to us (given that we have reached several finals). Winning IS hard, otherwise everyone would be doing it, and winning consistently (which Newcastle haven't done yet) is VERY hard, and those on here who mock that suggestion must just be thick, the data of how few teams achieve consistent success is there for all to see...
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Nothing dumb at all, they got it over the line, yes we have been to finals and achieved nothing.
Open your eyes and look at our players attitude, no demand from the top to achieve.
They go through the motions then leave, to fulfill their dream elsewhere, same with our young players, they will look to leave after the mess the club is in.
Ange is a joke of an appointment, the team should have been good enough to have won the league cup, but winning it WAS too hard for them.
 
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