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ENIC In or ENIC Out

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CJJ said:
It's weird who has 'liked' your post there, considering what it shows is that the top 6 wage paying clubs, on average, finish outside the top 3 positions except for Man City
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3 of the top 6 have to finish outside the top 3 every season. So it's not a great insight!

More interesting is whether the Top 6 finish outside the Top 6, and if so how often.

And the answer is that that Top 6 clubs by wages are more likely than not to finish in the Top 6 positions in the PL!
 
asterdroid said:
They take that money to make even more money off the same people: via spending on the hotel, skywalk, karting, and so on that was all built off the football income.
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The Hotels and Affordable housing were all part of the original project , so they already had planning permission and funding back when the stadium was built . But it's unclear who will own the hotels and affordable housing when they are built . So I don't know if they'll get sold as a separate business to the club , when they decide to sell up . I've been hearing all sorts of wild rumours of them selling the football side of things and keeping the stadium , hotels and affordable housing as a cash cow . You never know what to believe when Levy is involved .
 
manmountainbutters said:
3 of the top 6 have to finish outside the top 3 every season. So it's not a great insight!

More interesting is whether the Top 6 finish outside the Top 6, and if so how often.

And the answer is that that Top 6 clubs by wages are more likely than not to finish in the Top 6 positions in the PL!
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Well indeed, but people keep circling around to that like it's some kind of mind-blowing revelation.

The actual topic of interest, as ever, is whether within the top 6 annual wage bills, there's a pattern between how much a club spends and the likelihood of challenging for the title.
I feel that the data errs on the side of "no"
 
Kevin Ball said:
I've been hearing all sorts of wild rumours of them selling the football side of things and keeping the stadium , hotels and affordable housing as a cash cow . You never know what to believe when Levy is involved .
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That would be the Ultimate dream scenario for Levy and the Lewis cartel.
Rent the stadium back to the football club and continue to reap the rewards of from all the other sporting and non sporting events that keep the tills ringing.
 
Tottenham Massive said:
That would be the Ultimate dream scenario for Levy and the Lewis cartel.
Rent the stadium back to the football club and continue to reap the rewards of from all the other sporting and non sporting events that keep the tills ringing.
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Yes , that's what I'm hearing , he's also planning to re-develop the area around the stadium , but nothing has been tabled for this vision . I imagine it will be one massive cash cow when he's finished .
 
manmountainbutters said:
3 of the top 6 have to finish outside the top 3 every season. So it's not a great insight!

More interesting is whether the Top 6 finish outside the Top 6, and if so how often.

And the answer is that that Top 6 clubs by wages are more likely than not to finish in the Top 6 positions in the PL!
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In the last 10 years at least one top 6 club has finished outside the top 6 - 8 times.
In the last 10 years at least two top 6 clubs have finished outside the top 6 in the same season - 4 times - 2 of those happening in the last 3 seasons.
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
On this, I agree.

There is no chance in us 'doing a Leeds'. Levy, for all his many faults is FAR too astute a businessman to ever let that happen.

But we can definitely afford to be shelling out a lot more on wages than we currently do. Show some fucking ambition, and pay the money that will attract the better players. Money talks - simple as that.
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There is another way of improving league position, than just paying higher wages.

Appoint a manager who's got a reputation for getting his teams to punch above their relative weight wage-wise.

I wonder which option Levy will go for?
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
On this, I agree.

There is no chance in us 'doing a Leeds'. Levy, for all his many faults is FAR too astute a businessman to ever let that happen.

But we can definitely afford to be shelling out a lot more on wages than we currently do. Show some fucking ambition, and pay the money that will attract the better players. Money talks - simple as that.

Players are not fans, by and large. They are employees. Football is their job, and they will go where they get paid the best (weighing up other factor such as location, like any other employee in any other walk of life would do).

If an organisation offers me £100k, and another one offers me £200k, and the location isn't some absolute back of beyond shithole, then I know which one I'd be taking.
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“Oh come now, the promise of potentially setting up a committee to see if you might be able to see a lady wrestler come into the office after 5 years of good performance and if there’s budget, isn’t appealing?”

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walter said:
There is another way of improving league position, than just paying higher wages.

Appoint a manager who's got a reputation for getting his teams to punch above their relative weight wage-wise.

I wonder which option Levy will go for?
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Happy Joel Mchale GIF by ABC Network
 
FightingIllini said:
Exactly what the practical buyout implications of this are I'm not totally sure, but I believe ENIC, the company, owns ~86% of Spurs (with other smaller partners owning the remainder), and then ENIC itself is split roughly 70/30 between the Lewis Family Trust and Levy.

So you'd be buying Levy out of ENIC, not Spurs as such. ENIC would still be majority owned by the Lewis Trust, and it's ENIC as an entity which has the controlling interest in Spurs.

As human beings though, Levy and Lewis are partners and always have been. Financial mumbo-jumbo aside, the relationship of personal trust and confidence between them is what has kept Levy's control of the club as ironclad as it has been.
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Apologies I left out the word 'equal' partners.
 
CJJ said:
Well indeed, but people keep circling around to that like it's some kind of mind-blowing revelation.

The actual topic of interest, as ever, is whether within the top 6 annual wage bills, there's a pattern between how much a club spends and the likelihood of challenging for the title.
I feel that the data errs on the side of "no"
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Man Utd underperform. Liverpool overperform. Woolwich underperform. Man City overperform. Chelsea are about par, slightly underperform.
 
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