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I thought there was a chance, just a little one, that the buzz of the Europa League win would have gotten to Levy. The celebration, the parade, the outpouring of joy, and even more importantly selling vast amounts of overpriced merch with gold lettering.

Turns out I was wrong.

I cannot fault the stadium, the concerts, all that stuff. It's turned us into a financial powerhouse but we just continually squander it. We just finished 17th and while changing the manager will do a lot to address the awful league form, we're moving backwards in terms of playing personnel. Kudus I think is going to be fun to watch but that can't be it. This is the premier league and if you're not running to keep up then you're going backwards and we're going backwards.

I genuinely think the Europa League win has actually made him think "yeah this is working" instead.
 
JimothyCF14 said:
I thought there was a chance, just a little one, that the buzz of the Europa League win would have gotten to Levy. The celebration, the parade, the outpouring of joy, and even more importantly selling vast amounts of overpriced merch with gold lettering.

Turns out I was wrong.

I cannot fault the stadium, the concerts, all that stuff. It's turned us into a financial powerhouse but we just continually squander it. We just finished 17th and while changing the manager will do a lot to address the awful league form, we're moving backwards in terms of playing personnel. Kudus I think is going to be fun to watch but that can't be it. This is the premier league and if you're not running to keep up then you're going backwards and we're going backwards.

I genuinely think the Europa League win has actually made him think "yeah this is working" instead.
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There is no room to go backwards or we'll be playing in the Championship next season.
 
The line about wanting to win the PL and the CL was merely a weak attempt to justify sacking a manager who won our first trophy in 17 years. They were an embellishment.

He wants us to believe that 17th and a trophy is beneath him, but truthfully all he really cares about is getting back into the CL with as little investment as possible. It's all about his return on investment (in money terms, not football terms).

Of course he would like to win the CL or the PL, just like I would like to win gold at the Olympics. But I know that neither will happen.

The sooner he and ENIC are gone, the better. They are the shackles that prevent us from success. They have brainwashed many of our fans into thinking we can't compete with the top teams any more. They have to go.
 
There's no way Daniel Levy is walking away from THFC. This has been his project/baby for 25 years, the hotel is next and he is seeing it all come to fruition. Plus there's the small matter of being the highest paid chairman (6m+) in the league and at 63 when you have a job like he has why would you chuck it in and start over again?

There is a fair argument that he could step back from the football side of things, but ultimately its him who signs off the cheques and he has shareholders to keep happy and the books to balance. The accountant in him will never allow either to be questioned/criticised. This and the reported fact, the man is a control freak who will never allow anyone else to have the final say on how he looks after his baby.
 
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bus-conductor said:
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a bizarre scenario where a football chairman/owner has so impressively grown the business but so incompetently run the actual football club.

Somehow Levy has managed to turn us into a financial powerhouse, whilst simultaneously taking us back to the 90’s as a football club, where we find ourselves buying West Ham’s best players, but dicking around waiting for the big clubs to do their business.

The odd thing is, Levy has shown innovation at times, first to adopt a proper DOF, hire one of the best, gave the architects of this current Liverpool side - Ian Graham and Michael Edwards - jobs at the same time, has hired some progressive young coaches, at one point did some good recruiting, but always finds a a way to turn it to shit, and from about 2016-17 it’s been quantum level incompetence from every facet of running the football side of things.

Hiring a blagger like Redknapp, letting Poch talk him out of a proper DOF/recruitment structure, Mourinho/Conte/Nuno…

The complete fucking mess of our recruitment the last 8-9 years is a catastrophic failure of leadership, of ability to put in place innovative or even adopt the latest best practice methodology or hire personnel capable of doing the job.

Levy has managed to oversee massive net transfer fee spending on a vast array of unsuitable or mediocre footballers, in part due to his prioritising fee over salary,to the point where we have a squad that needs at least 8-10 quality players at least to actually meaningfully compete in two comps.

Frank might do a job, but where’s the fucking ambition or logic in hiring mr low risk pragmatic, who’s never won anything anywhere, who’s biggest success is avoiding relegation with a low budget side and has never done it playing proactive football.

Levy needs to step the fuck away from running the club.
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One of the best posts I’ve seen here in a long, long time.

Level headed, non agenda driven. Just straight facts.

I would challenge anyone to come up with a legit argument against it. There won’t be one.

Bravo BC.
 
Nobody3 said:
Plus there's the small matter of being the highest paid chairman (6m+)
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Slightly out of date , page 31 in the latest accounts.

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TomHotspur said:
One of the best posts I’ve seen here in a long, long time.

Level headed, non agenda driven. Just straight facts.

I would challenge anyone to come up with a legit argument against it. There won’t be one.

Bravo BC.
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The idea that we've been "taken back to the 90's as a football club" is a gross overstatement.

Our finishes in the 90s: 10th, 15th, 8th, 15th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 14th, 11th

As I've detailed at length before, this period under ENIC has been the 2nd most consistently successful 25 year period in the club's history. The difference between the ENIC Era and 1960-85 is really just that we've bottled finals and 2 league title chases.
 

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Unbeaten against Wycombe AND LUTON , it’s a start
 
MemphisWill said:
The idea that we've been "taken back to the 90's as a football club" is a gross overstatement.

Our finishes in the 90s: 10th, 15th, 8th, 15th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 14th, 11th

As I've detailed at length before, this period under ENIC has been the 2nd most consistently successful 25 year period in the club's history. The difference between the ENIC Era and 1960-85 is really just that we've bottled finals and 2 league title chases.
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And we haven’t been relegated…
 
MemphisWill said:
The idea that we've been "taken back to the 90's as a football club" is a gross overstatement.

Our finishes in the 90s: 10th, 15th, 8th, 15th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 14th, 11th

As I've detailed at length before, this period under ENIC has been the 2nd most consistently successful 25 year period in the club's history. The difference between the ENIC Era and 1960-85 is really just that we've bottled finals and 2 league title chases.
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I wasn’t talking about the whole 25 years, which, as you say, has seen us grow exponentially as a company (possibly the best success story in modern football) and be extremely consistent as a football team.

In commercial aspects, Levy has overseen an incredible growth story. But there is no doubt the sporting project has gone spectacularly badly over the last 6-8 years, from what had been our most consistent 15 year platform, which incredibly coincided with our huge commercial success (thanks to Levy).

It is this bizarre juxter position than I was referring to.

The comparison to the 90’s is that even then, we were still seen as a “big 5/6” club, and resources wise, we probably were, yet poor management of the sporting project saw us mired in mid table, getting close in the odd cup, signing the odd good player with a bunch of meh and employing coaches like Gerry Francis and Christian Gross.

Whatever happens, Levy’s commercial achievements should ensure we are always competitive, which is smart, just bizarre that his sporting ineptitude finds us 17th, scrabbling to compete for top players at the same time.
 
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