Europa Conference League 2021/22; potential QR2 vs Honka Espoo

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Roma will probably be in this competition. Imagine the final vs Mourinho's Roma and Dier scores the winning header.

FT: Roma 1 - 0 Tottenham

Yep, Dier plays for Roma now
 
:mourbringit:
Had to do it myself:

So far:

Play-offs:
Villareal (SPA)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Union Berlin (GER)
Roma (ITA)
Rennes (FRA)

3rd qualifying rounds:
Pacos de Ferreira (POR)
Rubin Kazan (RUS)
Anderlecht (BEL)
Kolos Kovalivka (UKR)
Vitesse (NEL)
Trabzonspor (TUR)
LASK (AUT)

2nd qualifying rounds:
Santa Clara (POR)
Sochi (RUS)
Gent (BEL)
Vorskla Paltova (UKR)
Feyernoord (NEL)
Sivasspor (TUR)
Hibernian (SCO)
Aberdeen (SCO)
Slovacko (CHE)
Apollon Limmasol (CYP)
AEL Limmasol (CYP)
Basel (SWI)
Servette (SWI)
PAOK (GRE)
Aris Thessaloniki (GRE)
AEK Athens (GRE)
Partizan (SER)
Cukaricki (SER)
Vojvodina (SER)
Elfsborg (SWE)
Hacken (SWE)
Molde (NOR)
Valerenga (NOR)
Rosenborg (NOR)
Tobol (KAZ)
Astana (KAZ)
Shakter Karagandy (KAZ)
BATE Borisov (BER)
Torpedo Zhodino (BER)
Dynamo Brest (BER)
Qarabag (AZE)
Sumgayit (AZE)
CSKA Sofia (BUL)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)
Universitatea Craiova (MOL)
FCSB (MOL)
Rakow Czestochowa (POL)
Pogon Szczecin (POL)
Dunajska Streda (SLK)

+ All the garbage from 1st qualifying rounds
 
Had to do it myself:

So far:

Play-offs:
Villareal (SPA)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Union Berlin (GER)
Roma (ITA)
Rennes (FRA)

3rd qualifying rounds:
Pacos de Ferreira (POR)
Rubin Kazan (RUS)
Anderlecht (BEL)
Kolos Kovalivka (UKR)
Vitesse (NEL)
Trabzonspor (TUR)
LASK (AUT)

2nd qualifying rounds:
Santa Clara (POR)
Sochi (RUS)
Gent (BEL)
Vorskla Paltova (UKR)
Feyernoord (NEL)
Sivasspor (TUR)
Hibernian (SCO)
Aberdeen (SCO)
Slovacko (CHE)
Apollon Limmasol (CYP)
AEL Limmasol (CYP)
Basel (SWI)
Servette (SWI)
PAOK (GRE)
Aris Thessaloniki (GRE)
AEK Athens (GRE)
Partizan (SER)
Cukaricki (SER)
Vojvodina (SER)
Elfsborg (SWE)
Hacken (SWE)
Molde (NOR)
Valerenga (NOR)
Rosenborg (NOR)
Tobol (KAZ)
Astana (KAZ)
Shakter Karagandy (KAZ)
BATE Borisov (BER)
Torpedo Zhodino (BER)
Dynamo Brest (BER)
Qarabag (AZE)
Sumgayit (AZE)
CSKA Sofia (BUL)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)
Universitatea Craiova (MOL)
FCSB (MOL)
Rakow Czestochowa (POL)
Pogon Szczecin (POL)
Dunajska Streda (SLK)

+ All the garbage from 1st qualifying rounds
Roma and Villarreal are the only 2 good teams.

We probably wouldn't face them until the QF's at the earliest.

You may also get 1 or 2 good teams drop from the EL for whatever reason.

In reality we won't need to play any first teamers until probably the QF'S
Therefore its a competition where despite the banter it:
- Provides the youth with minutes
- Keeps our 2nd XI fit and so they can be called upon in the league.
- Away trips for our fans
- Revenue for the club through gate reciepts as well as TV/tournament money

It also means we can still fully concentrate on the league because our first team will probably just stay at home while other go on the away trips etc.. its almost like having no Europe because no strength is required to play these teams until very deep into the competition.
 
In early round, against lower league teams, yes youth, bench players should play as long as the team is strong enough to advance. There is top teams in league cup to justify to advance and have a go. The sacrifice for this while focusing on the league is manageable.

Europa League with CL pathway is good enough to make the sacrifice. This ECL is not. Why? Thursday football and travel would affect the league schedule the whole season, yet the prize is meh. There is no big match up to look forward to.
You've moved the discussion, you said the EL wasn't worth playing in because it didn't pay enough. I argued that it pays 100X+ what the League Cup (which so many defend for some reason), and so you obviously think we shouldn't try to win that one.

Now you're saying the money doesn't matter, its about how big the teams you're playing are - even if the prize money for playing in the tournament doesn't even cover the player wage cost of participation.

Playing Roma or Villarreal in a final is meh? We haven't won a trophy in 13 fucking years. We were worried about becoming Woolwich with the stadium, but fuck me if we aren't turning into Spam.
 
It will be our 13th season in a row playing in Europe. Something that Spurs fans could only wished in late 90's. United and City are the only clubs that have more consecutive seasons in Europe, City actually is on the same page as we are.

Just remember that, it's still is an achievement.
 
What's especially stupid about the way UEFA has set this up is that a club like Benfica or Monaco could drop out of the Champions League in the qualifying stages, end up in the Europa League group stages, finish third, and drop into the Conference League knockout stages.

The movement between competitions is misguided.
 
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