So you're saying its pointless.
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Levy has them believing we will win things despite the clear evidence of us going backwards. Not long ago they were telling us we don't need to worry about liverpool apparently. So don't be swayed by the majority. They have been proven very wrong so far.
He tried in the FA Cup. But a bottom of the table norwich proved too much for us.
Could cost him his job. We don't have the squad to cope with EL & a top 4 race. So if he goes all out for the EL we will suffer in the league. Levy might not accept another season of no CL football.
No, because I'm not a negative guy, we are there to win it and to be fair its a cup we are capable of winning.
We definitely have the squad for the EL and top 4.
In the group stages we can easily play a mainly back-up squad with and rotate in some starters.
No reason that a team such as can't be the basis for a EL squad to face the likes of the teams we will see in the group stage:
Gazzaniga
Tanganga-Dier-Kim/New CB-Sess
Moura-Fernandes-Winks
Lamela-New Striker-Alli
Replace any guys sold with their replacements brought in and accounts for Skipp being on loan
That still leaves a EPL starting 11 of something like:
Lloris
New RB-Toby-Sanchez-Davies
GLC-Hojbjerg-Ndombele
Berg-Kane-Son
Once the knockout stage comes in you can put more of the starters in there and still not over run them even with League Cup and FA Cup games. The only question I would have is whether that starting 11 is top 4 quality but that has nothing to do with EL and everything to do with us not having/bringing in enough quality.
We will have to agree to disagree on that. We will find out in a very long time if you were right to be positive.
Hmm. Not as convinced as you with the squad we have. Don't rate any full backs or DM's. Let alone rotating for EL & league. Kane will either be flogged to death as well or we rest him which obviously weakens us.
We are ok for CBs & AMs but a bit light in other area's. I still feel strongly that a Europa run harms you in the league but I get you feeling differently.
But we do agree our best 11 isn't good enough for top 4. We will need others to play crap to have a chance.
Well we better win it then!
I don't get people who love ENIC/levy now saying how important trophies are. I thought it was just consistency in the league.
Trophies are important. But trophies aren't suddenly important when defending levy/ENIC
Trophies are important regardless of who owns the club.
The job of the owner is to bring together a group of players capable of winning trophies.
And we have had a team capable of winning an FA cup, League cup or UEFA for 15 years. We had a team capable of winning a league in the last 5.
We haven’t won anything due to the managers of those respective sides not matching the quality of the players available to them.
Now feel free to blame them for appointing Poch or Redknapp. Feel free to blame them for tolerating those managers derisory attitude towards the cups that represented our best chance of success.
But you and others like you don’t do that - the coaches always get a free pass despite the talent available to them and it’s all about this facile need to build the perfect squad through market squad.
I'm with you all the way on that. 1967 I became Spurs. But no longer due to recent events. Even now I can't see them winning anything soon. Only money wins these days!
Agreed !;
You think this team is good enough to win the EL so it will be down to mourinho if we don't. I don't think we are good enough which is down to the owners in my view. I think its very harsh to expect mourinho to get this team to win the EL. But others think we are more than capable so mourinho can have no excuses as he had a good team. No right or wrong.
I think it harming in the league is very overrated and an excuse used by teams that are too weak to do much in the league in the first place.
If we are too weak to compete for top 4 and EL it is most likely that the actual case is just that we are too weak to compete for the top 4.
These are the teams that Woolwich and Man United faced in the group stage: Eintrecht Frankfurt, Standard Liege, Vitoria, AZ, Partizan, Astana. There is no reason that my first team listed could not win a group with these teams without a single player from our starting 11.
In the knockout stage Woolwich, Wolves and United were matched with Olympaikos, Espanyol and Brugge and that was with Woolwich and Wolves failing to win their groups. Again 3 teams we can beat without having to use a ton of our first team starters.
Obviously with other Cups we are likely to have a few players overlapping but not enough that it should wipe out their stamina or fitness. When we have big EPL games coming up we can easily keep any players that are at risk at home and still be fine for the EL.
The biggest issue we have with top 4 is not the supposed drain that EL will have on us, it is the fact that we are at best the 5th best team in the EPL and maybe lower after the transfer window is done.
It's not fair to expect a manager to win any given competition in which he's given a competitive squad, but in English football those opportunities compound.
If in two years Mourinho hasn't won anything, having been handed a built, mature squad on the precipice of doing so, then he's either failed or we've performed so well in the league that the allocation of resources away from the cups was a mistake.
Has Scott ever made a non ENIC post?
Who will be better in the EL than us?
I mean it is hard to tell right now not knowing who will come from the CL but using the current Europa League season the only teams better than us would be Manchester United and Inter. Both teams that we could easily beat in a one off final.
The year before you would be looking at Inter, Napoli, Chelsea as teams that are comparable to us currently.
So we likely are looking at having a team or 2 from Italy, likely their 3rd or 4th best, another English team in this case Wolves or Leicester and maybe a 2nd tier team from Germany or Spain. Not a guarantee that we win by any means but not a single terrifying team or a team that we have no business beating.
At the very worst come the knockout stage we are likely 4th favorites at worst more likely top 2.
So why again is this not a tournament we can win?
