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Match Fulham (A) 1st March, 2pm
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We've won 1 of our last 10 playing a back 3/5.
Food for thought.
I agree, 5 at the back is not a good set up for us.
Not against the back 3 tbh. We looked alright (by our awful standards) playing it under Frank until the City first half, after which he abandoned it then we were utter wank playing a back 4 against Newcastle.
Main issues against Woolwich were the wingbacks (Djed too right footed, Gray not a natural full-back), the lack of technical ability, composure and passing in midfield and central defence, and the very existence of Dragusin. All those problems would've likely still been there regardless of whether we played with a back 3 or 4. And we don't have any fit wingers anyway, which means shunting Xavi, RKM out wide or shoehorning in Tel if we play with a back 4.
Hopefully against Fulham Danso and Porro will come straight back in - those 2 will help provide a bit of balance and mean we can get Dragusin out of the team.
Main issues against Woolwich were the wingbacks (Djed too right footed, Gray not a natural full-back), the lack of technical ability, composure and passing in midfield and central defence, and the very existence of Dragusin. All those problems would've likely still been there regardless of whether we played with a back 3 or 4. And we don't have any fit wingers anyway, which means shunting Xavi, RKM out wide or shoehorning in Tel if we play with a back 4.
Hopefully against Fulham Danso and Porro will come straight back in - those 2 will help provide a bit of balance and mean we can get Dragusin out of the team.
Would you drop Spence from LWB? I think you have to on their small pitch. Could even play Spence, Danso and VDV in a back 3
I'd probably play Souza and Porro as wingbacks, or Spence at RB if Porro's only fit enough for the bench. Think ideally we need Porro's passing with Romero out, though.
Spence as a wide CB is an interesting one. He's got the height, pace, 1v1 ability and is OK on the ball (miles better than Dragusin at least). Suits Tudor's want for the wide CBs to push up high. Just worry about him positionally and dealing with crosses, etc. I doubt Tudor would go for it but you never know? If Danso's back I'd defo prefer Spence as the RCB over Dragusin.
Vicario
Spence
Danso
Mickey
Porro
Palhinha
Gallagher
Xavi
Souza
RKM
Solanke
Would like to see Spence at RCB and stick something with a left foot at LWB, need 2 up top, our front man is always too isolated
Spence
Danso
Mickey
Porro
Palhinha
Gallagher
Xavi
Souza
RKM
Solanke
Would like to see Spence at RCB and stick something with a left foot at LWB, need 2 up top, our front man is always too isolated
Not sure Spurs have the luxury of choice.
[LINEUP]Vicario
Palhinha Dragusin Ven
Porro Sarr Bissouma Gallagher Spence
Xavi
RKM [/LINEUP]
Solanke will get 30 minutes in place of RKM; or Xavi, if hes having a stinker.
Danso will get 30 minutes in place of Palhinha.
Richarlison will replace one of the midfield 3 if we are chasing a goal.
Tel will replace one of the back 3 if we are desperately chasing a goal.
[LINEUP]Vicario
Palhinha Dragusin Ven
Porro Sarr Bissouma Gallagher Spence
Xavi
RKM [/LINEUP]
Solanke will get 30 minutes in place of RKM; or Xavi, if hes having a stinker.
Danso will get 30 minutes in place of Palhinha.
Richarlison will replace one of the midfield 3 if we are chasing a goal.
Tel will replace one of the back 3 if we are desperately chasing a goal.
lol at the VDV injury!!
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Should be 4-2-3-1.
Easier for players to adapt to. Carrick has shown at United how a team struggling can improve with that simple change away from the issues 3-4-3 gives you.
If this manager sticks to 3-4-3 we could be digging our own grave. We don’t have the personnel. Not recruited for that system for the past 3 years.
Mind boggling if that’s the only system this Tudor geezer plays.
Easier for players to adapt to. Carrick has shown at United how a team struggling can improve with that simple change away from the issues 3-4-3 gives you.
If this manager sticks to 3-4-3 we could be digging our own grave. We don’t have the personnel. Not recruited for that system for the past 3 years.
Mind boggling if that’s the only system this Tudor geezer plays.
[LINEUP]Vicarioh!
Porro Danso VDV Souza
Gray Paulinha
Muani Xavi Tel
Solanke[/LINEUP]
I also think those same XI players COULD easily be jigged into a 3-4-1-2 formation... If required!
[LINEUP]Vicarioh!
Paulina Danso VDV
Porro Gray Xavi? Souza
Tel?
Muani Solanke[/LINEUP]
Porro & Danso fit hopefully,
if not, it'll have to be Spence (RB) and Dragusin (CB)
Souza must be able to fit in at LB,
cos it's one position we DON'T have to fit a Square Spence into a round hole!!
Porro Danso VDV Souza
Gray Paulinha
Muani Xavi Tel
Solanke[/LINEUP]
I also think those same XI players COULD easily be jigged into a 3-4-1-2 formation... If required!
[LINEUP]Vicarioh!
Paulina Danso VDV
Porro Gray Xavi? Souza
Tel?
Muani Solanke[/LINEUP]
Porro & Danso fit hopefully,
if not, it'll have to be Spence (RB) and Dragusin (CB)Souza must be able to fit in at LB,
cos it's one position we DON'T have to fit a Square Spence into a round hole!!
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4 at the back hasn't worked for 2 years now. 5 at the back is also considered 3 at the back. Now that we have ruled out 3, 4 or 5 at the back, do you think we should go with 2 or 6 at the back?
We’re playing a very similar system to the one Conte used. It can work in this league and be attacking.
lol at ‘Vicarioh!’[LINEUP]Vicarioh!
Porro Danso VDV Souza
Gray Paulinha
Muani Xavi Tel
Solanke[/LINEUP]
Porro & Danso fit hopefully,
Souza must be able to fit in at LB,
cos it's one position we DON'T have to fit a Square Spence into a round hole!!
The problem we’ve had this season with 4-2-3-1 is that without inverting a FB into the MF , we struggle to progress the ball through midfield.
But a lot of the players we still have and recruited kind of fit it well.
Simons best games for RBL were as a left 10 coming into the middle from the left,
Bissouma was recruited to be a double pivot Cm for Conte
Porro and Spence recruited as WBs. Udogie recruited as a WB.
Solanke perfect for a lone 9.
Muani clearly likes the role for Tudor.
Kulusevski if he ever comes back was a Conte player
Kudus is a 10 that can play wide. I’m expecting him to look great in this wide 10.
Honestly, I don’t want to see it long term but for a short term kick in the backside, it’s not mental to me. Granted I don’t know shit about the actual differences in formation and system. I can see the logic though
I know the answer but why fucking sign him and then not use him[LINEUP]Vicarioh!
Porro Danso VDV Souza
Gray Paulinha
Muani Xavi Tel
Solanke[/LINEUP]
Porro & Danso fit hopefully,
Souza must be able to fit in at LB,
cos it's one position we DON'T have to fit a Square Spence into a round hole!!