The point is not that Levy signs players early, the point is that Levy doesn't always sign players late.
Some come in straight away, some toward the end of the window, but as S.L.R says, we are not the only club doing business on deadline day!
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The point is not that Levy signs players early, the point is that Levy doesn't always sign players late.
Some come in straight away, some toward the end of the window, but as S.L.R says, we are not the only club doing business on deadline day!
Fuck me you are a bit thick aren't you? My list was always players who were still at the club, not suddenly. 2005 was chosen because Dawson is our longest serving player.
Just in case you still don't get it, all 14 of my list are still at the club, that's two thirds of our squad bought before August. Two fucking thirds, I'm not even including Livermore and Obika in this who came out of our academy. Your link doesn't even fucking have join dates, try using this one instead:
http://www.myfootballfacts.com/TottenhamHotspurPlayerTransferHistory1908-2009.html
Levy took control of Spurs in February 2001, giving you the whole of August as a late signing I count
Pre-August: 53
August: 28
Oh look, about two thirds again, and I'm giving you all of August.
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So your whole point is that Levy signed some players at the club early?
Thats a real nice reason to start a thread.
Lets defend Levy for signing players early, but ignore everything else that proves he does'nt move early way more often.
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You're either a wind up merchant or failed junior school. Either way, you've just broken my ignore button cherry.
But nobody ever said that every signing is late.
If we miss out on another important signing for example, a striker, Im not going to take any comfort in Zins list.
Some might be appeased by another midfielder, but if we start the season with Ade and Defoe, I for one will go nuts.
Better than explaining yourself I suppose
I'm all up for supporting the club and agree with the sentiment, but this is bs really buddy. Lennon, Hudd, Bale, Rose and the Kyles were all "ones for the future", Friedel was free, Verts actually took over 6 months as it all started in January previous. I think most people's arguement is the fucking around with established players that the team needs right now.
Personally, I don't really care when deals are made for peripheral players, Levy has failed to realise for several years the damage his hard on for coming out top dog on the negotiation table has on our preseason preparations.
I'll personally wait to applaud him until we begin the season with a proper strike force for the first time in three or four years.
Zins thread is in reply to people who say 'Finally, Levy signs somebody early' as if Paulinho is breaking a trend. His list just proves that it's a fallacy. Not that we never sign players late, not that we don't miss out on players because we wait and haggle too much, just that we do in fact sign players early sometimes, with one of our signings just last year coming earlier than Paulinho.
It doesnt prove a thing, because he hasnt counted all of Levy's signings, or factored in the players we have missed out on.
Why should only the current squad count?
There are more late signings, and failed signings, than early ones, so his list is meaningless...because the early signings are breaking a trend when you take Levy's work in its entirety.
Something which Zin conveniently didnt do.
I assume this was complete sarcasm....
I agree. We should count players that we don't own, and going by the media we were after. We should count them as late signing. You've been talking nonsense in this whole thread. Then gave bullshit responses to zins facts.
So if we miss out on a signing, by waiting too late, we should dismiss it, and not use it as proof that Levy leaves it too late.
And if Levy signs a player late, and then we sell him on, we should also dismiss it?
So we should only look at Levy's early signings to prove he signs early. Haha, fucking hilarious!
Do we (Levy) have a reputation for last minute signings? Is the natural assumption that we miss out on targets because Levy leaves it late? Yes? This is the reasoning behind what Zin is getting at.
Chances are, if we miss out on the striker we want it is because we were not prepared to meet the valuation (or agree a structure to the deal). The fact that Levy is willing to wait to see if an agreement can be made up to 5 minutes before the window closes should be applauded, as should the fact that Levy is not prepared to pay over the odds or risk our financial structure to rush a deal through.
We buy within our means, as such the prices we pay are not always immediately available to us, it sucks from a footballing perspective but it's how we have to survive as a club. I'm sure the signing of "another midfielder" wasn't designed just to appease people, it was to strengthen the team, as will be a striker signing, but strikers come with a premium so we will only get what we can, when we can.
Just because Jim Whyte says we tried to sign Charlie Adam, doesn't mean it actually happened.
No way can players we might've tried to sign can be included in here.
And I've no axe to grind here. I'd rather we signed players early, but can see the reason financially for waiting.
It proves everything. The original point wasn't that us signing Pualinho this early is in contrast to how we *NEVER* purchase early. Whereas, that's clearly not the case. Fuck 90% of purchases could be on the last day, and we could miss out on hundreds of players, but that doesn't make a difference to the point of this thread.
Which is something that is not being claimed. Not literally.
Modric, Crouch, Bentley, Dos Santos, Prince-Boateng, Bent, Zokora, Berbatov, Lee, Davids, Routledge, Tainio, Stalteri should fit your criteria then.
Even for Damiao??
Sammy is such a tedious fuckwit sometimes. And I can say this without fear of reprisal as I am on his ignore list.
It's only the last few seasons levy has had this reputation as far as I'm aware. How on earth we can include players we 'missed out on' when for 99% of them no one but levy and a few people at the club truly know the situation is beyond ridiculous.
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made a perfectly good point and for some reason spammy decides to choose the thread for his nit picky argument du jour
It's only the last few seasons levy has had this reputation as far as I'm aware. How on earth we can include players we 'missed out on' when for 99% of them no one but levy and a few people at the club truly know the situation is beyond ridiculous.
zin
made a perfectly good point and for some reason spammy decides to choose the thread for his nit picky argument du jour