Good players but made no difference.

[superstaryid]

I'm 35. I was a supporter in the Gazza years, even a mascot once, but I was too young to be critical of how players contributed overall.

I fail to believe that Vince , I bet you were in Gordon Durie's ear telling him all the inglish bastads in the team were a load of fucking pish.

 

[Larry David]

Is this thread players that played well but couldn’t stop us losing? If so I’d say dean Richards.

If it’s players that you rate and hate I’d say Taraabt. Could have been the absolute bollocks but had the mental age of a toddler

 

[r-u-s-x]

Jenas was absolute class, for about 20 seconds per season. Never had the arrogance to go along with the ability.

He had the ability to be our Gerrard, he could only do it 1 in 10 though.

 

[Bazali]

Not how I remember it.
I remember Gazza absolutely changing games with a flash or two brilliance. He could decide how a game went with just 20 mins of him in top gear. There were times he the only thing worth the entrance money.

Just like Ginola in his day

 

[superstaryid]

He had the ability to be our Gerrard, he could only do it 1 in 10 though.

Had everything to be a quality box to box midfield player except consistency.

 

[LEGO Boy]

Fucking hell Ginola AND Gazza being seriously suggested by some. I`m done with this.

 

[Belgian Spur]

The OP is very vague. It mentions like/rate. Thread title says "but made no difference." Its really down to your interpretation. This whole thing is a shambles, tbh.

I've chosen to interpret it as made no difference to the team/results. Otherwise Ade was a lazy player everyone soured on. Jenas and Bentley fall into the same sort of more talent than brains/spirit category.

As far as your interpretation of the discussion I'd have to put Crouch on the list for me. He had some good times at Spurs but I never really warmed to him. Maybe it was his overall awkwardness, or that it always felt like Spurs deserved more and were above his level.

I'd argue that Jenas was too much of a thinker to succeed.

 

[Bagelboy]

Kaboul was decent for us but also a former goon/chav so I could never warm to him.

Kaboul was a gooner and chav? Don’t you mean Gallas

 

[Park Lane Mark Twain]

I'd argue that Jenas was too much of a thinker to succeed.

For me Jenas didn't give as much as he had on the pitch 9 times out of 10. That for me was his biggest downfall I hardly ever saw him exhausted. If he had a genuine passion to take games by the scruff of the neck I think we'd have seen a special player

 

[Parkinson1]

Carrick was class and criminaly underrated during his career.

Agreed! He makes up a great team. Its his work off the ball and thats why he isn't your typical superstar. A very good player!

 

[Belgian Spur]

For me Jenas didn't give as much as he had on the pitch 9 times out of 10. That for me was his biggest downfall I hardly ever saw him exhausted. If he had a genuine passion to take games by the scruff of the neck I think we'd have seen a special player

I think he choked, overthinking stuff, couldnt handle the pressure. He lacked the natural arrogance to be top and that was his downfall imo.

 

[Bagelboy]

Les Ferdinand, Jamie Redknapp, John Scales, Jason Dozzell, Gordon Durie, Ray Clemence, stephe clemence, Paul Stewart, Rocket Ron,
A few players I thought didn’t look right or didn’t like or want as Spurs players


Great but made no difference
Alfie Conn
Modric
Bale ( to a certain extent)
Sheringham
Klinsmann
Berbatov
Ledley

A few off my head.

 

[Park Lane Mark Twain]

I think he choked, overthinking stuff, couldnt handle the pressure. He lacked the natural arrogance to be top and that was his downfall imo.

So concerned about making mistakes he took no risks at all? You could be right. Either way his career not just with us but overall was disappointing

 

[Belgian Spur]

Les Ferdinand, Jamie Redknapp, John Scales, Jason Dozzell, Gordon Durie, Ray Clemence, stephe clemence, Paul Stewart, Rocket Ron,
A few players I thought didn’t look right or didn’t like or want as Spurs players


Great but made no difference
Alfie Conn
Modric
Bale ( to a certain extent)
Sheringham
Klinsmann
Berbatov
Ledley

A few off my head.

How do you define made a difference ? As the list you gave consits of players that made quite the difference for us imo

 

[Bagelboy]

How do you define made a difference ? As the list you gave consits of players that made quite the difference for us imo

Made no difference as to the success of the team.
Finished 7th with Klinsmann Sheringham for example.
Sheringham never won anything with us nor did Klinsmann Berbatov, Bale, and only one played CL
Modric I’d say the same, won nothing one CL experience.
I define it by great players who never made a difference in that way.
For instance we have been more consistent in the league last 4 years and managed CL more times. Had one realistic title challenge. Kane could still win nothing but sort of made a difference. Depending on how you define success.
Ledley won a league cup but didn’t experience CL.
Not they made no difference to Spurs, but in the grand scheme of things.
Like what could have been.

Greaves was brilliant and won a euro trophy and two fa cups for instance.

 

[r-u-s-x]

I'd argue that Jenas was too much of a thinker to succeed.

Not for me it was his heart not his head that was the problem.

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

Gazza, Linekar, Mabs, Walsh, Howells, Paul Allen, Stewart, Erik The Viking... A promising young Walker, Barmby & Edinburgh...

Granted we had a few stinkers, but i loved that side... Last time i got to genuinely say that before the dark times.

I see your point as what followed was much worse.

We also had van den huwe, austin and Terry fenwick!

 

[Team Tanguy]

I feel like you could say this kind of shit about most players in top 4 teams tbh.

There's usually a few superstars and then the rest are B or C (or lower) levels players who play that supporting act role.

Since we haven't won anything yet naturally such players are more prominent.

Truth is all our team atm probably could get into a champions squad and a few the first XI.

 

[Jester]

Dont think it matters how you interpret it. Its a good thread either way. Makes a change from the same old, same old.

 

[Ozle]

Jenas, didn't think anyone over rated him