I get what you're saying. But with better, more creative players in the side he wouldn't have to beat anyone to score goals. He's definitely been much stronger in the past, and a touch quicker, but it's not like either have ever been his main attributes. At the moment he's a striker low in confidence (despite what he might say to the media) that's also playing in a team that creates little, especially against decent opposition. Yeah, he scored a bundle of goals for England recently which you would think would help, but it's not like many, if any, of them were terrific finishes. And he also missed a bundle of chances too in those games.
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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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I get what you're saying. But with better, more creative players in the side he wouldn't have to beat anyone to score goals. He's definitely been much stronger in the past, and a touch quicker, but it's not like either have ever been his main attributes. At the moment he's a striker low in confidence (despite what he might say to the media) that's also playing in a team that creates little, especially against decent opposition. Yeah, he scored a bundle of goals for England recently which you would think would help, but it's not like many, if any, of them were terrific finishes. And he also missed a bundle of chances too in those games.
That's why we need Kane in there as a #10 focusing on distribution and runners playing further forward / surrounding him - he's literally the only player that can do that role for us and he does it well
And he's struggling as a #9 for us due to his physical decline.
This just might be the answer.
Lets me honest mate, we're never getting these 'creative players.' Like ever.
We literally have one on our team. Kane is that guy.
I think players like Damsgaard are in our reach, especially if we offload a few. While he may only be a poor man's Eriksen, he would still improve us and certainly add a bit more craft and flair to the side.
I feel somewhat sorry for any striker we play with at the moment, whether that's Kane, Son or any potential new signing.
Kane made three meaningful passes tonight
Is this what now constitutes a good game for him? Have we just totally written off scoring goals and assisting now, because “everyone else doesn’t create”…..?
“What a player” I’ve heard, fuck me some of our fans love a bit mediocrity don’t they.
Kane basically turning into a poor mans Sissoko, and some are drooling
Is this what now constitutes a good game for him? Have we just totally written off scoring goals and assisting now, because “everyone else doesn’t create”…..?
“What a player” I’ve heard, fuck me some of our fans love a bit mediocrity don’t they.
Kane basically turning into a poor mans Sissoko, and some are drooling
I don't know mate - I just think that if Kane just really focused on being a distributor, he'd be very good at it. We're seeing glimpses here and there of what's possible but I feel like he's being hindered in some ways because he's still trying to be a #9. He's just much more valuable to us as a player that solely focuses on distribution. He's not the #9 we need right now.
Or... if we could just sell him in January/next summer that'd be good as well but looks less and less likely every game.
Looks another grand Levy fuck up so far. Well see what happens in Jan
But then we wouldn't fully utilize his finishing ability, which is still top-class. You're right that his distribution is highly useful to us, but at present we still only have Sonny who can reliably stick the ball in the back of the net from chances Kane might create.
I still think the major difference is that we no longer have the free-form offense of peak-Poch era, i.e. Eriksen, Dele, Son and Kane at the height of their powers. Each of those players, plus contributions from wing-backs like Rose and Walker made us a formidable squad that could score and punish teams from a variety of areas. Once Eriksen left we had no-one who could distribute the way you're suggesting Kane should, and have still not replaced his creativity. Dele.. who the fuck knows what his issue is, but once upon a time he was virtually a second striker at times, supplying Kane with excellent service and being a target for clever passes himself.
With those key tools gone, Kane isn't getting service the way he used to. You mentioned how he can't beat a man anymore; he was never that good at dribbling past someone anyway. What he was great at was using his passing ability and finishing ability to create or score bags of goals in concert with an offense who could do the same for him when he found space. He was the world-class striker in a top-class offense.
Now he and Son are our only players of that calibre. One way to solve this is, as you say, to utilize Kane for his distribution, which means we are going to have to obtain better finishers for him to partner Son. Whoever we get on our budget will not be the all-round stars that he is, so would have to focus solely on finishing. It might work in the short term, I agree, but I also think it wastes the talents of one of the best strikers in world football.
I just think the better solution is to try to finally replace Eriksen, and keep Kane's qualities still in play at the front of the attack. At least long term.
Still just the one goal then?
I don't disagree with much of that, but as I keep saying, I think any striker around looks worse than he is in our team at the moment as we create next to nothing for the majority. Yes there are strikers that will produce something from nothing much more often than Harry, but he's never been that type of player anyway. But he will still score many more than he misses, given the chances. At the moment he's desperate for goals and isn't striking the ball as true as he has done over the last 9 or 10 years, but he's certainly not become a poor finisher in the space of a few months.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with City now Kane is well and truly off the boil. I'm not sure how his ego will take being a backup for City if they don't get a younger and more in form striker. Which at the moment is pretty much every striker in Europe.
Does he go and tell Gary Neville that he was only kidding about wanting to play with De Bruyne and he'd much rather play with Slabhead than his Spurs team mates?
Does he go and tell Gary Neville that he was only kidding about wanting to play with De Bruyne and he'd much rather play with Slabhead than his Spurs team mates?
Been really poor, no two ways about it. Has to figure it out or we should sell him to City in January for the right price and if we have a replacement lined up. City would still love to have him and I think he’d propel them to clear favorites. He’d do well there. That said, doubt Levy sells him.
He had a good game. Looking fit. Worked hard and created some good chances.
It’s not though is it.
He’s played 11 full PL games had 27 shots and scored one goal and missed 5 big chances
That’s not top class, he has had chances and fluffed them, like he did last night
Vardy has scored 9 from 34 yet also missed 5 big chances
There comes a time when you have to just say, Kane isn’t scoring enough of the chances he does get.
Some chances?
I only remember the pass to Reggie, don’t remember him putting anyone else through
Kane has created 4 big chances in 11 games
And missed 5 big chances scoring 1 goal
Busting two myths
He hasn’t become a peeler striker in a few months, you’ve been told 5000 times that his decline began three years ago.
It’s peaking now because he doesn’t have the mentality to get over his failed City adventure. The sooner some of you listen to what’s been said, the less confused you’ll be about Kane’s football
Son having a poor season is still on 5, Hojberg on 2 and Kane has the same as Ndombele and Dele who have played about 1/3 of the game time
Reggie also has 1 goal
Kane has 1 assist (same as Son, Bergwijn, Moura and Hojberg while Reggie has 3) and created 4 big chances in 12 appearances but he’s our sole creator apparently.
Newsflash, he’s created one more big chance than Dier and Moura
The #1 priority for us is to sell Kane this Jan or next summer if there are any suitors.Son having a poor season is still on 5, Hojberg on 2 and Kane has the same as Ndombele and Dele who have played about 1/3 of the game time
Reggie also has 1 goal
Kane has 1 assist (same as Son, Bergwijn, Moura and Hojberg while Reggie has 3) and created 4 big chances in 12 appearances but he’s our sole creator apparently.
Newsflash, he’s created one more big chance than Dier and Moura
He’s done as a prolific striker for us and probably most teams in the PL. The amount of service he needs to be effective just isn’t feasible for us or 18 teams in the PL.
If we can’t sell him, it’s worth a shot trying to play him as a #10, focusing on distribution, but my hunch is that he’s just not going to be up for it as he wants those individual goal records.
For me there’s better options.
Even playing Kane deep will eventually catch up with us.
He can play a decent ball against Brentford and Mura, but try that against West Ham or Chelsea in a high intensity derby……doesn’t work, the games are passing him by