Harry Redknapp

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Simple management is the key with HR and it can work. BUT when it comes to the crunch in the PL, he didn't have the know how. He is a Del Boy, ruins every club his been at financially . Lucky Levy kept him away from the purse at Spurs. His dodgy and will never get the England job.
 
ruins every club his been at financially .

Such bollocks. If you blame Redknapp for the Pompey mess, you must be pretty deluded as to how that club was being run. He helped them out by giving them 16M for Defoe, Kaboul and Crunchie.

Not many wanted Defoe or Kaboul back, and he was slated for it.

He didnt ruin West Ham, SCBC or us either. No idea where that nonsense comes from
 
Such bollocks. If you blame Redknapp for the Pompey mess, you must be pretty deluded as to how that club was being run. He helped them out by giving them 16M for Defoe, Kaboul and Crunchie.

Not many wanted Defoe or Kaboul back, and he was slated for it.


He didnt ruin West Ham, SCBC or us either. No idea where that nonsense comes from

Good points: He is the last English manager to win a major English trophy.

He, initially gets results and does well at clubs but his way of managing is unsustainable. His double deals and his double talking catches up with him. Chairman and players loose respect.

Compare AVB and HR there is no comparison as people and as a manager.

Bad points :
Bournemouth - financial problems - relegated
West Haw - sacked (got caught talking to Newcastle)
Portsmouth - Financial problems - relegated
Southampton - Resigned - financial problems - relegated
Portsmouth (gave him lots of money) - resigned? BIG financial problems.
Spurs - Sacked

"He helped them out by giving them 16M for Defoe, Kaboul and Crunchie".... Exactly, helped them out?
 
Good points: He is the last English manager to win a major English trophy.

He, initially gets results and does well at clubs but his way of managing is unsustainable. His double deals and his double talking catches up with him. Chairman and players loose respect.

Compare AVB and HR there is no comparison as people and as a manager.

Bad points :
Bournemouth - financial problems - relegated
West Haw - sacked (got caught talking to Newcastle)
Portsmouth - Financial problems - relegated
Southampton - Resigned - financial problems - relegated
Portsmouth (gave him lots of money) - resigned? BIG financial problems.
Spurs - Sacked

"He helped them out by giving them 16M for Defoe, Kaboul and Crunchie".... Exactly, helped them out?

Are you for real?

First up, no one is comparing him to AVB.

Regarding buying the players back, yes he helped them, They could not pay the players, and there was a fire sale.....Defoe could have probably gone somewhere for 3M they were so fucked, so yes, he paid them a decent fee.

Good points, you forgot what he achieved here already which is something I never get with the people who dont like him. You can hate his guts for all I care, but to belittle his what he's done for club is just gooner-like.

Bad points :
Bournemouth - financial problems - relegated
Won the league with record points tally taking the club to the highest division in their history. Relegated three yrs later, and he was there for two more years. Nearly dies in a car crash, sees his friend killed in that crash, and eventually quits.
West Haw - sacked (got caught talking to Newcastle)
Established a youth accademy that saw the likes of Ferdinand, Lampard, Carrick and Cole come through the ranks.
Secures their second highest ever top flight finish.
"The chairman had offered me a new four-year contract. What I did was talk to a fanzine, made some comments, and sometimes I should be a bit more careful. I sat down with these guys from the fanzine and they started asking me questions and I spoke to them in the way I’d talk to someone in a pub. I said a few things I shouldn’t have said. He read it and got very upset. I walked into his office expecting to sign the contract and walked out without a job!"

Portsmouth - Financial problems - relegated
Won the Championship and promoted to PL. Fell out with Mandaric and resigned.
Southampton - Resigned - financial problems - relegated
Took over halfway through the season and couldnt keep them up. Was there for one year. Resigned.

Portsmouth (gave him lots of money) - resigned? BIG financial problems.
Joined halway through season, and kept them up. Following year led them to highest finish in their history.
Offered Newcastle job, declines.
Wins FA Cup
(you wanna blame Redknapp for this..
Because of the financial problems suffered by the club, Portsmouth were forced to sell several of their top players and high earners, this included selling Peter Crouch, Sylvain Distin, Glen Johnson and Niko Kranjčar. On 21 July, Al Fahim was appointed non-executive chairman of Portsmouth. On 19 August, Portsmouth announced on their website that a rival consortium headed by current CEO Peter Storrie had also made a bid for the club; unknown at the time, this was backed by Ali Al-Faraj. Despite this, Al Fahim completed the takeover on 26 August; Al Faraj moved to review a takeover of West Ham United. As the early stages of the 2009–10 season progressed, the finances dried up and the club admitted on 1 October that some of their players and staff had not been paid. On 3 October, media outlets started to report that a deal was nearing completion for Ali al-Faraj to take control of the club. On 5 October, a deal was agreed for Al Faraj and his associates via BVI-registered company Falcondrone to hold a 90% majority holding, with Al-Fahim retaining 10% stake and the title of non-executive chairman for two years. Falcondrone also agreed a deal with Gaydamak the right to buy, for £1, Miland Development (2004) Ltd, which owns various strategic pockets of land around the ground, once refinancing is complete. 2 days after the Al-Faraj takeover was completed Portsmouth's former Technical Director Avram Grant returned as Director of football. On the pitch, Portsmouth's late transfer of funds called for a flurry of transfers at the end of the window, including the loan signing of Ivory Coast international Aruna Dindane who would go on to score a hat trick against Wigan Athletic. An opening run of seven defeats saw fears Hart would be sacked. However at the eighth attempt, at Molineux Stadium, Hassan Yebda another loanee, headed the first win. Portsmouth were beaten 4–2 at home by Aston Villa in the quarter finals of the League Cup having beaten off Premier League high-flyers Stoke City. Yet another loanee Frédéric Piquionne was on target twice. However, because of the financial problems, the Premier League placed the club under a transfer embargo, meaning the club were not allowed to sign any players.

Avram Grant took over at Portsmouth on 26 November 2009 replacing former manager Paul Hart, who had been sacked by the board two days previously, due to the club's position at the bottom of the league.

In December 2009, it was announced that the club had failed to pay the players for the second consecutive month, on the 31st it was announced player's wages would again be paid late on 5 January 2010. According to common football contracts, the players then had the right to terminate their contracts and leave the club without any compensation for the club, upon giving two weeks' notice. Despite the financial difficulties, Grant's time as manager was initially successful. He gained two wins (against Burnley and Liverpool) and a draw away at Sunderland from his first five games. The only losses inflicted on Portsmouth in this period were by eventual double winners Chelsea and the previous season's champions, Manchester United. HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) filed a winding-up petition against Portsmouth at the High Court in London on 23 December 2009. In March 2010, this winding-up petition was dropped, leaving Portsmouth with a nine-point penalty for entering administration. During the 2009–10 season, it had become apparent to the club's new owner Balram Chainrai that Portsmouth were approximately £135 million in debt so to protect the club from liquidation, Chainrai placed the club into administration on 26 February 2010, and the club appointed Andrew Andronikou, Peter Kubik and Michael Kiely of accountancy firm UHY Hacker Young as administrators. This automatically incurred a nine-point penalty from the FA Premier League which came into effect on 17 March and resigned the team to almost certain relegation, which was mathematically confirmed on 10 April.

On 9 April it was announced David Lampitt would be joining Portsmouth as their new CEO after he had worked a period of notice at the FA, his current employer. Portsmouth were relegated to the Championship the following day after West Ham United beat Sunderland. Despite this, Portsmouth won their FA Cup semi-final match against Tottenham 2–0 after extra-time the next day, with goals from Frédéric Piquionne and Kevin-Prince Boateng winning the match. They faced Chelsea in the final at Wembley on 15 May and lost 1–0 to a goal from Didier Drogba. Despite being the FA Cup finalists, the club were denied a licence to play European football the following season in the UEFA Europa League, and therefore the European place went to Liverpool. In May, Grant resigned as Portsmouth manager and later joined West Ham, whose win over Sunderland relegated Portsmouth from the Premier League. On 17 June, the club's creditors voted for a Company Voluntary Arrangement, with a 81.3% majority; Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC), Paul Hart and the agent of Portsmouth midfielder Tommy Smith were the only ones to reject it, but HMRC appealed against the CVA due to the reduction of their considerable debt. On 15 July 2010 HMRC appealed against the proposed CVA on the last day before it would be formally agreed, the case was originally going to take place in October 2010, but after an appeal from the administrators at the club it was set for 3 August at the High Court in London. The case was heard by Mr Justice Mann from 3 to 5 August where, having heard submissions from both sides, he turned down HMRC's appeal on all five counts put forward by the revenue service. HMRC decided not to appeal against the verdict, leaving Portsmouth's administrators to formally agree the CVA and bring the club out of administration. On 17 August, Balram Chainrai completed his takeover of the club and passed the owners and Directors F&PPT.

On 22 October, Portsmouth issued a statement saying: "it appears likely that the club will now be closed down and liquidated by the administrators.", but key creditor Alexandre Gaydamak announced the next day that he had reached an agreement which could save their future.[34] It was revealed just hours later that Portsmouth had finally come out of administration, with Balram Chainrai regaining control of the company.

On 23 November 2011, a Europe-wide arrest warrant was issued for owner of Portsmouth, Vladimir Aleksandrovich Antonov, by Lithuanian prosecutors as part of an investigation into alleged asset stripping at Lithuanian bank Bankas Snoras, which is 68% owned by Antonov and had gone into temporary administration the previous week. Operations in another of Antonov's banks, Latvijas Krajbanka were suspended by Latvian authorities on 22 November 2011 for similar reasons. Antonov was subsequently arrested at his offices in London on 24 November and was bailed.

Convers Sports Initiatives (CSI) released a statement which said "In the light of the recent events at Snoras Bank, Convers Sports Initiatives (CSI) would like to reassure its companies, staff, and the fans of its teams and events, that it remains very much business as usual." The statement added that "CSI has been solely financed through the private wealth of its owners. Snoras Bank has never provided funding for the purchase of a CSI organisation, nor has it lent any money to these businesses after they have been acquired." However, Lithuanian prosecutors added that they would be taking "all the necessary steps" to freeze assets belonging to Mr Antonov and his business partner. On 29 November 2011, Antonov resigned as chairman of Portsmouth after parent company Convers Sports Initiatives entered administration. On 24 January 2012, Portsmouth were issued with a winding up petition by HMRC for over £1.6 million in unpaid taxes, which was heard on 20 February.

On 17 February, Portsmouth went into administration for the second time in two years, bringing them an automatic 10-point deduction. Administrator Trevor Birch admitted that the financial situation was "worse than we first feared" and that Portsmouth were "struggling to make the end of the season". On 11 April 2012, reports from administrators PKF revealed that Portsmouth owed £58 million debt with £38 million is owed to UHY Hacker Young, £10.5 million investment made by Vladimir Antonov's Convers Sports Initiatives (CSI) remains outstanding, Players are due £3.5 million in wages and bonuses for the last two seasons, while £2.3 million is owed to Revenue and Customs and additionally, £3.7 million is owed for general trade. On 21 April Portsmouth were relegated from the Championship after a 2–1 loss to Derby County, condemning Portsmouth to League One – the first time in 30 years that the club has played at that level.

Spurs - Sacked
Not even going to bother. If thats your outlook on his time here, then there is no point.
 
Well he was our best manager since Bill Nicholson.

What about Burkinshaw? 2 FA Cups and a UEFA Cup. Terry Venables? 1 FA cup and 3rd place finish (albeit when English sides were still banned from European competition). Hell could even argue that Pleat first time round was a pretty decent manager and had us playing some exciting stuff, with Hoddle, Waddle and Allen.

I do feel Redknapp was a great manager for us and he did bring back some consistency in terms of top 4-5 finishes. In fact those two seasons after CL qualification we were well placed to easily finish top 3, yet his inability to rotate the squad saw us fall away badly. We also failed miserably in the trophy hunt, we were unlucky against Utd in the League Cup, shouldn't have capitulated to Chavs in the FA Cup semi. I don't believe under Redknapp we'd have ever been able to win the league or a cup competition, which he saw as being more of a hinderance.
 
What about Burkinshaw? 2 FA Cups and a UEFA Cup. Terry Venables? 1 FA cup and 3rd place finish (albeit when English sides were still banned from European competition). Hell could even argue that Pleat first time round was a pretty decent manager and had us playing some exciting stuff, with Hoddle, Waddle and Allen.

I do feel Redknapp was a great manager for us and he did bring back some consistency in terms of top 4-5 finishes. In fact those two seasons after CL qualification we were well placed to easily finish top 3, yet his inability to rotate the squad saw us fall away badly. We also failed miserably in the trophy hunt, we were unlucky against Utd in the League Cup, shouldn't have capitulated to Chavs in the FA Cup semi. I don't believe under Redknapp we'd have ever been able to win the league or a cup competition, which he saw as being more of a hinderance.

I liked your post, but will pull you up on the bolded part, as that is actually something that he gets accused of, but is massively incorrect:

This was posted by "elltrev" on GG last year
Wolves 2-0 > 4-4-2 > despite missing both Lennon and VDV. Niko played on the right, Ade and Defoe up top.
Liverpool 4-0 > 4-4-2 > this time VDV came on for Niko at half-time.
Wigan 2-1 > 4-4-1-1 > Ade up front, VDV behind him, Sandro and Parker in the middle, and Luka on the right.
Woolwich 2-1 > 4-4-2 > Ade and Defoe back up top, VDV on the right.
Newcastle 2-2 > 4-3-3 > Ade up top, VDV and Bale supporting, Livermore in with Luka and Parker.

> So 5 good results and performances on the trot, despite missing Lennon, playing 3 different systems, and playing Sandro and Parker together against Wigan (where we played some fantastic football).

Blackburn 2-1
QPR 3-1
Fulham 3-1
Villa 2-0

> For 4 games in a row we then played the 'classic' 4-4-1-1 - Lennon back on the right, Ade up top, VDV behind him, Luka and Parker in the middle. We dominated QPR and Villa, but were dominated by Blackburn and Fulham and arguably didn't deserve even draws, let alone wins.

West Brom 3-1 > 4-4-2 > Were missing VDV and Modric, so replaced them with Defoe and Sandro. An excellent away performance despite missing Luka and VDV, and playing Parker and Sandro together in the middle.
Bolton 3-0 > 4-4-2 > Luka came back in for Sandro. Cahill sent off after 15 minutes made this one easy at home against a relegation candidate.
Stoke 1-2 > 4-4-1-1 > Back to the 'classic'. Played well and didn't deserve to lose, but got Foyed.
Sunderland > 1-0. ? > Not sure what we played here. Bale was missing and was replaced with Sandro, suggesting a 4-3-3. Pav came on for Lennon though after 27 minutes. Parker, Sandro and Modric all started.

> Again, a mixture of formations and lineups. Lost the only game in which we played 'the classic', though we were robbed.

Chelsea 1-1 > 4-3-3 > Ade, Bale and VDV supported by Sandro, Parker and Modric. Lennon out again. Pav came on for VDV at half-time.
Norwich 2-0 > 4-3-3- > Same starting lineup as previous game. Dominated Norwich, as Bale began 'the roam'.
Swansea 1-1 > 4-3-3 > Same system again. Swansea were the better team.

> Played the same 4-3-3 system 3 games in a row, with mixed results.

West Brom 1-0 > 4-4-2 > a return to 4-4-2, as VDV shifted out to the right and Defoe came in for Parker. Comfortable win.
Everton 2-0 > 4-4-1-1 > Almost 'the classic' as Lennon was back, but Livermore and Modric started in the middle. As they did against Norwich... We were level with United at this point.

> 2 wins with 2 different formations and lineups.

Wolves 1-1 > 4-4-1-1 > 'The classic' was back as Parker replaced Livermore. Dropped points here, but absolutely dominated Wovles.
Man City 2-3 > 4-4-1-1 > 'The classic' again. Almost snatched the win, but ultimately got 0 points.

> 1 point out of 6 for 'the classic'.

Wigan 3-1 > ? > Again, not sure exactly what we did here. Niko came in for Lennon, I assume in a 4-4-1-1, but Livermore came on for Rafa after 30 minutes. A 4-3-3 with Niko and Bale supporting Ade? Either way, an easy win.
Liverpool 0-0 > 4-3-3? > Ade up top, Niko and Bale supporting, Livermore in with Luka and Parker in midfield. Quite a cautious, tense game. Not a bad result at the time.
Newcastle 5-0 > 4-4-2 > Memories..... Ade and Saha up top, Niko and Bale out wide, Luka and Parker in the middle.

3 good results with 3 different formations and lineups.

Woolwich.... Where the downward spiral arguably began.

What is the point of all this?

There seems to be a perception, admittedly that I also had, that for most of our good run we played consistently 4-4-1-1 with Luka, Parker, Bale, Lennon, VDV and Ade. But actually we only played it four times in a row, then once against Stoke, then twice in a row against Wolves and City. Out of those 7 games we won 4, lost 2, drew 1. And against Blackburn and Fulham we were by far the worse team.

We didn't play 'the classic' 16 times, and had 12 wins, 4 draws and 0 losses.

Missing Lennon and / or VDV, switching lineups and systems from game-to-game, playing Sandro and Parker together, playing Livermore and Modric together etc - were constantly happening throughout the season, when we were on such a high.

When results start to go wrong, everyone naturally starts to make arguments for why. And tactics / lineups etc is probably the easiest thing to blame it on. But I think the above shows that our lineups and formations in this dip aren't really very different to those during our great run.
 
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