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No hatred at all for him but I don’t think that he could do a job for any PL club
We should have got rid two years ago when it was obvious that he hadn’t progressed on from the promise that he once showed

So we are well above Harry Winks and those dead woods like him


I can’t see Everton being so stupid as to waste £25m on him but here’s hoping
It would be interesting to see what types of clubs show an interest....
I assume many would have him down for somewhere like Fulham??

But I'm sure that if he leaves, there will be at least half a dozen PL who would take him.

The 3 promoted clubs for starters.... I could see him doing just fine at any of Brentford, Watford or Norwich.
 
This is just whiny nonsense. Not one thing I said is hate.

"He makes sissoko look good. " Thats not hate, its just means that even a terrible footballer like Sissoko is a better option

"Hes a drain on wages and a poor option for the manager. "
Our owner doesnt like to spend much and we could be giving those wages to a better player.

"Needs to be sold for any offer we get."
Because he is useless as a footballer for us. Could do a job at a much lower team.

Thats not hate. He can go have a nice happy career at newcastle if he wants. And none of us will go 'spit' hair at him.
I meant more 'in general' ...yours just happened to be first in the multi quotes!

I know you didn't say hate, and fair enough, it's your opinion, plenty have said worse... but to be fair, at least Winks'"drain on wages" didn't involves a hefty transfer fee in the first place!!

There are plenty more at the club who we've shelled out vast amounts for AND are still drawing a wage!

At least whatever we get for him won't have to be offset by the £30m + transfer fee we paid for him! (Unless we have to PAY someone to take him off our hands?!!)
 

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It would be interesting to see what types of clubs show an interest....
I assume many would have him down for somewhere like Fulham??

But I'm sure that if he leaves, there will be at least half a dozen PL who would take him.

The 3 promoted clubs for starters.... I could see him doing just fine at any of Brentford, Watford or Norwich.
Fulham would be a good move for him
Anywhere is a good move for us

He would take any of the newly promoted clubs back down imv
 
The "winks love" among a segment of supporters is the same as the "Livermore love" many years ago. Same arguments too.. "he can do a job for us in the midfield" "he is spurs through and through"..

Can't wait to see his exit announcement
 

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The "winks love" among a segment of supporters is the same as the "Livermore love" many years ago. Same arguments too.. "he can do a job for us in the midfield" "he is spurs through and through"..

Can't wait to see his exit announcement

Yaaawn.

......People are just sick of the bile, the gratuitously repetitive & enthused criticism and the tedious conspiracy theories.
 
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The "winks love" among a segment of supporters is the same as the "Livermore love" many years ago. Same arguments too.. "he can do a job for us in the midfield" "he is spurs through and through"..

Can't wait to see his exit announcement
The most ENIC player ever - mediocre and cowardly
 
Here's my thoughts on Winks

He's one of our own . He's an academy player. 4 seasons ago he bossed the midfield against Real Madrid. The season after that he was probably our best player in the Champions league final.

For whatever reason however he hasn't got better after that Champions league final. He gets the occasional injury but I believe he's just a very limited player.

Good passer of the ball but wants far too long on the ball. Doesn't do enough aside from the passing. Too easy to get past etc..

He's quite average and he doesn't fit this team for sure.

He's not shit but when he plays sometimes he looks very poor and last season he was simply not good enough.

No need to abuse him. He loves this club but perhaps he's got a bit complacent and is happy to just be a squad player. Time for both him and club to move on.

My only irk I have with him is that if its true that he was the one who went leaking to the press and he caused squad disunity. (Just rumours so Idk)
 
The "winks love" among a segment of supporters is the same as the "Livermore love" many years ago. Same arguments too.. "he can do a job for us in the midfield" "he is spurs through and through"..

Can't wait to see his exit announcement
Here's my thoughts on Winks

He's one of our own . He's an academy player. 4 seasons ago he bossed the midfield against Real Madrid. The season after that he was probably our best player in the Champions league final.

For whatever reason however he hasn't got better after that Champions league final. He gets the occasional injury but I believe he's just a very limited player.

Good passer of the ball but wants far too long on the ball. Doesn't do enough aside from the passing. Too easy to get past etc..

He's quite average and he doesn't fit this team for sure.

He's not shit but when he plays sometimes he looks very poor and last season he was simply not good enough.

No need to abuse him. He loves this club but perhaps he's got a bit complacent and is happy to just be a squad player. Time for both him and club to move on.

My only irk I have with him is that if its true that he was the one who went leaking to the press and he caused squad disunity. (Just rumours so Idk)
Thing is... Hoddle & Perryman spoilt us. We were never gonna find anyone as good as them in our lifetimes...

But since then, we've consistently produced very similar midfielders who are neither one thing or the other....

Decent enough, but limited. Neither creative enough to provide a constant goal threat like Hoddle, nor defensive enough to offer proper protection like Perryman (although he did play at Full back and in defence at various stages of his Spurs career.... I still think of him as a cultured midfielder).

I could cite the likes of Ian Culverhouse, Samways, Howells, Paul Moran , Mark Robson... then later, Stephen Clemence, Jake Livermore, Andros Townsend, Tom Carroll, Ryan Mason, and now Harry Winks.... (I've probably missed a few) but you know the type of player I mean: all academy products, all (probably) Spurs fans.... initial promise shown, which buys them time... but ultimately, that only got them so far when consistency became key to a successful career.

Maybe/hopefully Skipp finally breaks the mould.... but right now, he is essentially fulfilling THAT role of 'almost/maybe/not quite' Spurs midfielder!
 

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The "winks love" among a segment of supporters is the same as the "Livermore love" many years ago. Same arguments too.. "he can do a job for us in the midfield" "he is spurs through and through"..

Can't wait to see his exit announcement
Pretty sure Livermore only had a career because of threats from his thug family.
 
Thing is... Hoddle & Perryman spoilt us. We were never gonna find anyone as good as them in our lifetimes...

But since then, we've consistently produced very similar midfielders who are neither one thing or the other....

Decent enough, but limited. Neither creative enough to provide a constant goal threat like Hoddle, nor defensive enough to offer proper protection like Perryman (although he did play at Full back and in defence at various stages of his Spurs career.... I still think of him as a cultured midfielder).

I could cite the likes of Ian Culverhouse, Samways, Howells, Paul Moran , Mark Robson... then later, Stephen Clemence, Jake Livermore, Andros Townsend, Tom Carroll, Ryan Mason, and now Harry Winks.... (I've probably missed a few) but you know the type of player I mean: all academy products, all (probably) Spurs fans.... initial promise shown, which buys them time... but ultimately, that only got them so far when consistency became key to a successful career.

Maybe/hopefully Skipp finally breaks the mould.... but right now, he is essentially fulfilling THAT role of 'almost/maybe/not quite' Spurs midfielder!
Curiously enough, the Spurs player Skipp most reminds me of is Stevie Perryman when he was a midfielder.

If Skipp could reach that level, both as a tenacious player and a respected leader, then I'm sure we'd all be very happy.
 

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Thing is... Hoddle & Perryman spoilt us. We were never gonna find anyone as good as them in our lifetimes...

But since then, we've consistently produced very similar midfielders who are neither one thing or the other....

Decent enough, but limited. Neither creative enough to provide a constant goal threat like Hoddle, nor defensive enough to offer proper protection like Perryman (although he did play at Full back and in defence at various stages of his Spurs career.... I still think of him as a cultured midfielder).

I could cite the likes of Ian Culverhouse, Samways, Howells, Paul Moran , Mark Robson... then later, Stephen Clemence, Jake Livermore, Andros Townsend, Tom Carroll, Ryan Mason, and now Harry Winks.... (I've probably missed a few) but you know the type of player I mean: all academy products, all (probably) Spurs fans.... initial promise shown, which buys them time... but ultimately, that only got them so far when consistency became key to a successful career.

Maybe/hopefully Skipp finally breaks the mould.... but right now, he is essentially fulfilling THAT role of 'almost/maybe/not quite' Spurs midfielder!
Almost all of the 'fans' giving Winks abuse will not have heard of any of those names.
 
Why do people call Winks a rat? I must have missed something, where does this come from?

I don't rate him as a player and I think he should be replaced. I've said before, I think he looked better when we had better players overall at the club. The likes of Dembele, Eriksen, Dele either went, regressed or a combination of both and Winks is just shown to be a fairly average player, in my opinion.

But yeah, why do some of you call him a rat? lol
 
We had Gaza after Hoddle and Ardiles
I wouldn’t call them limited

I agree about Skipp and have high hopes for him
Mate, I was talking about HOME GROWN players only!

....we also had Ricky Villa, Carrick, Modric, Davids, VDV, Berbatov, and Bale.... and they were all great! But we BOUGHT them!

The point being, the HOME GROWN talent, unless outstanding (like Hoddle & Perryman) will eventually get dogs abuse if they're NOT as good as the players,we pay a fee for!
 
Why do people call Winks a rat? I must have missed something, where does this come from?

I don't rate him as a player and I think he should be replaced. I've said before, I think he looked better when we had better players overall at the club. The likes of Dembele, Eriksen, Dele either went, regressed or a combination of both and Winks is just shown to be a fairly average player, in my opinion.

But yeah, why do some of you call him a rat? lol

I think some people think that he was complaining behind the scenes to media members at the end of Jose's time at Spurs because of a lack of playing time.
 
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