Heung-Min Son (손흥민)

snowkarl

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Why have the bin dippers basically never had an injury to any of their front 3 in the past 2 years - and we have basically never had our 1st choice front 3 available in that time????

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Kane grew up near the White hart Lane, supported Spurs growing up and came through the academy. It's not favoritism you moron. Fans just have more affinity with someone who comes from a similar working-class background, in an area where it's predominantly Spurs supporters and it's very close to the stadium.
Bloody hell worsted worsted is this really you writing ?
 
Well the manager's not afraid to play their youth team in the league cup when they have to. They've been lucky but he manages their workload well. I suppose it helps that they have a backup striker...
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Before this season Liverpool didn't have any fullback cover, no adequate replacement for VVD, Mane or Salah. The only position they were stacked in was the CM position. All 7 or 8 of their most important players basically played 95% games in every game in the last 3 seasons yet the only long term injury they got in that period (apart from CM spot) was Allisson last season and Salah in the CL final in 2018 (but he didn't miss any subsequent match as it was the last match of the season). Liverpool played 100mph in each game in that period and Kloop is also a very tough trainer. So why don't they get injuries? City have tremendous depth and chop and change their players every other week yet their injury list is almost as long as ours. Chelsea's important players also rarely ever got injured over the years.

Yes, other factors like playing and training style do come into play but I feel like it's mostly to do with luck.
 

snowkarl

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Before this season Liverpool didn't have any fullback cover, no adequate replacement for VVD, Mane or Salah. The only position they were stacked in was the CM position. All 7 or 8 of their most important players basically played 95% games in every game in the last 3 seasons yet the only long term injury they got in that period (apart from CM spot) was Allisson last season and Salah in the CL final in 2018 (but he didn't miss any subsequent match as it was the last match of the season). Liverpool played 100mph in each game in that period and Kloop is also a very tough trainer. So why don't they get injuries? City have tremendous depth and chop and change their players every other week yet their injury list is almost as long as ours. Chelsea's important players also rarely ever got injured over the years.

Yes, other factors like playing and training style do come into play but I feel like it's mostly to do with luck.
If it happens once it's luck. Twice it's a coincidence, every day? It's not luck.
 
Before this season Liverpool didn't have any fullback cover, no adequate replacement for VVD, Mane or Salah. The only position they were stacked in was the CM position. All 7 or 8 of their most important players basically played 95% games in every game in the last 3 seasons yet the only long term injury they got in that period (apart from CM spot) was Allisson last season and Salah in the CL final in 2018 (but he didn't miss any subsequent match as it was the last match of the season). Liverpool played 100mph in each game in that period and Kloop is also a very tough trainer. So why don't they get injuries? City have tremendous depth and chop and change their players every other week yet their injury list is almost as long as ours. Chelsea's important players also rarely ever got injured over the years.

Yes, other factors like playing and training style do come into play but I feel like it's mostly to do with luck.

They've been lucky for sure but it is known Klopp revamped their whole medical and physical teams once he took over. They must be doing something right. Either that or being asthmatic prevents injuries.
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I gave the final few minutes of the first half a rewatch specifically to watch Son, how he was moving, his body language.

Now, there didn't seem to be any opportunities for a lungbusting run in the last couple of minutes so we can't check that out - but he really didn't look like a guy who was carrying a hamstring injury. No reaching back and holding his thigh, seemed happy enough jogging around looking to get involved in play.

I dunno, unless he injured himself walking down the tunnel I don't get it.

I did the same - he had a sprint about the 42nd minute, only a short one but not the sort of thing he could do if he had a significant tear, and he didn't pull up. After that, as you say, he jogged around looking comfortable enough, and walked off normally at half time.

Even though he's a tough bugger, as has been said, there's no way you can even jog on a serious tear - you just can't hide that sort of thing.

Jose was mad at the world when he gave his comments, giving one word answers etc. I wouldn't be shocked if this was just his frustration coming out and Son's injury's not that bad. Fingers crossed.
 

snowkarl

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I did the same - he had a sprint about the 42nd minute, only a short one but not the sort of thing he could do if he had a significant tear, and he didn't pull up. After that, as you say, he jogged around looking comfortable enough, and walked off normally at half time.

Even though he's a tough bugger, as has been said, there's no way you can even jog on a serious tear - you just can't hide that sort of thing.

Jose was mad at the world when he gave his comments, giving one word answers etc. I wouldn't be shocked if this was just his frustration coming out and Son's injury's not that bad. Fingers crossed.
If he was forced off with a hamstring, unless we're extraordinarily lucky and it's just a tightness, it's minimum 3 weeks. Max 3 months iirc.
 
If it happens once it's luck. Twice it's a coincidence, every day? It's not luck.
Dunno really. Mourinho's teams didn't get as many injuries when he was at Chelsea or Madrid though did they? And it doesn't seem like he's very fond of sports science so it couldn't have been because he was proactive about injuries in the past. Especially compared to Guardiola who seems like a total geek about these things. Now all of a sudden he's at Spurs and he's getting as many injuries as Poch was getting when he was in charge. Why?

Pundits rarely like to give credit to luck but I'd say in football, luck makes clubs win trophies almost as much as the trophy-winning mentality of players. Luck of the draw in cups, important players not getting any injuries, ref making advantageous big errors in big games - all of these are consistently overlooked when talking about past champions yet almost all the champions had the rub of the green throughout the season.
 
He's fucked. Out for a year probably just like Hojbjerg was supposed to be out for weeks according to the physio experts on here! Let's wait for some official news.
 
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Kane grew up near the White hart Lane, supported Spurs growing up and came through the academy. It's not favoritism you moron. Fans just have more affinity with someone who comes from a similar working-class background, in an area where it's predominantly Spurs supporters and it's very close to the stadium.
You’re just confirming what I was saying before but thanks. Moving on now.

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snowkarl

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I will repeat what I said yesterday...


How exactly does Mourinho know the extent of the injury right after a game?
He doesn't, he said a while. But hamstrings, unless just a tightness (which there is a small chance there is), are a minimum of 3 weeks but a serious tear could be 2-3 months. It's just one of those injuries that have a high floor unfortunately. You can not run off a hamstring injury, you can't use injections. It just makes it worse.
 
He doesn't, he said a while. But hamstrings, unless just a tightness (which there is a small chance there is), are a minimum of 3 weeks but a serious tear could be 2-3 months. It's just one of those injuries that have a high floor unfortunately. You can not run off a hamstring injury, you can't use injections. It just makes it worse.
Yes but how does he know if its a 3 week job or a 2 to 3 month job. How does he know he "will be out for a long time"

Had we won the game i very much doubt he would have given the same response.
 
The club usually releases a statement if an injury is serious so I guess. we'll soon seen.

I'm hoping it's just tightness, and he'll be okay for after the international break with Bale too which will be such a boost for us.
 

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The club usually releases a statement if an injury is serious so I guess. we'll soon seen.

I'm hoping it's just tightness, and he'll be okay for after the international break with Bale too which will be such a boost for us.
He had a scan today apparently. So we will probably get a report tomorrow at the pre game press conference before the EL game.
 
I will repeat what I said yesterday...


How exactly does Mourinho know the extent of the injury right after a game?

Because he has been in the game a long time and these types of injuries are common.

He didn't give an exact timeline or diagnosis but he has likely seen these types of injuries and knows the general time frame it takes to come back.

After the scan it may turn out to not be as bad but it isn't like some fan is making a a diagnosis of a 3rd degree tear of his medial collateral ligament and that he will be out until December 23rd, it was an experienced manager talking about what he saw and has likely seen a ton over his career.
 
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