He's used every senior player he's got in both games in charge playing two different formations tbf.
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Manager Igor Tudor
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I think it’s more indicative that the players don’t give a fuck.
So drop them.
We are losing games anyway. Doing the same thing isn’t changing results.
I don't agree but I think Tudor was a weird appointment. Sean Dyche is available and he'd have an immediate impact.
That's what I've said for ages.
If we played some young players and gave some debuts, the fans would probably at least appreciate what was being done.
Playing the same shit players we already know are shit, and losing anyway, is achieving absolutely fuck all
Has to find a way.
It's been 2 games. Last week was never going to be won, and today was never going to be easy, and anyone thinking it was, was once again dismissing the facts.
A team with 2 wins in 19 has no foundation. No confidence.
Anyone coming into that kind of situation. has to be given a bit of time and leeway.
It's not as though Tudor can wave a magic wand, so as always perspective.
But he has to find a way. He just has to.
It's been 2 games. Last week was never going to be won, and today was never going to be easy, and anyone thinking it was, was once again dismissing the facts.
A team with 2 wins in 19 has no foundation. No confidence.
Anyone coming into that kind of situation. has to be given a bit of time and leeway.
It's not as though Tudor can wave a magic wand, so as always perspective.
But he has to find a way. He just has to.
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Two games down, six to go.
One occasion where I hate being right. But if you are going to act like Watford, don't be surprised when you become Watford.
Sticking with Frank until the summer and then getting rid would have 100% been the better option for any chance of staying up.
We gambled it all on a new manager bounce.
At the stage he just needs players who'll put in a shift, so as much as i dont rate Tel he needs to start, Richarlison obviously, Danso, maybe LWB.
If we dont beat Palace and inevitably get dicked by Liverpool i bet they flip managers again, the board will be thrashing around in full panic mode.
If we dont beat Palace and inevitably get dicked by Liverpool i bet they flip managers again, the board will be thrashing around in full panic mode.
I don't think it's easy, that's for sure, but I don't think it's about 'this bunch' as you put it as opposed to a group of players who are now playing with fear and obviously next to no confidence.
100% mate.
Micky did fuck all today and he’s the stand in captain.
Play some kids, fire a rocket up these cunts arses and play players in their best position.
It’s like we are waiting for Madders or Deki (and other injured players) to come and save the day whilst we continue to haemhorage points.
Sticking with the previous manager is exactly why we are in this situation.
It's beyond belief any poster would think we would be better off if we stuck with the previous incumbent.
Same Frank with 2 wins in 17 games? That guy, that the players stopped playing for?
Doing something different was our shot at staying up - we’ve just fucked it by not signing players in Jan and perhaps signing the wrong guy.
Some of you have such short memories and forgotten how coward we played under Frank. Granted we haven't won under Tudor, but we sustained a longer period of trying and attempting shots.
Nobody said it was easy, but under Frank I'm adamant we will be in a slump we would never get out. We are still in a slump, male no mistake, but the effort in trying to get out is definitely far greater we had ever have under Frank.
Just give us a slight good fortune I don't care, OG, opponents red cards, gvie us penalties whatever. An uptick in fortune, confidence and morale can do lots to drag us out.
Nobody said it was easy, but under Frank I'm adamant we will be in a slump we would never get out. We are still in a slump, male no mistake, but the effort in trying to get out is definitely far greater we had ever have under Frank.
Just give us a slight good fortune I don't care, OG, opponents red cards, gvie us penalties whatever. An uptick in fortune, confidence and morale can do lots to drag us out.
Stupid gamble of an appointment, no premier league experience, similar defensive style to Frank and let's face it no real calibre, but a typical appointment from the buffoons running the club.
No new manager bounce at all says it all, Fulham should have been out of sight today, the scoreline flatters us. Played multiple players out of position amd took way too long to rectify it when it clearly wasn't working. Left our top scorer on the line for a player who has one league goal and another who cannot play if he has a sore throat. No faith in him , we need someone in the Redknapp style to try coax enough out of this lot to stay up, I don't think Tudor is the answer.
No new manager bounce at all says it all, Fulham should have been out of sight today, the scoreline flatters us. Played multiple players out of position amd took way too long to rectify it when it clearly wasn't working. Left our top scorer on the line for a player who has one league goal and another who cannot play if he has a sore throat. No faith in him , we need someone in the Redknapp style to try coax enough out of this lot to stay up, I don't think Tudor is the answer.
It wasn’t good
There was some fight there
Play Tel, move Gray into CM, drop Palinha, it can work
There was some fight there
Play Tel, move Gray into CM, drop Palinha, it can work
Then change the bunch. Don’t force senior players who have been playing rubbish anyway into an unbalanced team.
Play some hungry youth to give the team a shot in the arm.
Anything is better than this current apathy.
Good post mate.
It’s not. He’s shit. Not sure which players from our relegation fighting squad deserve time and patience either. They’re a bag of wank.
You lot wanted patience for Brennan too, who sucked, and continues to suck elsewhere. They’re just shit players mate.
You just don't get it.
Waste of time me trying to explain it.
But I told everyone Tudor was not the answer and I will be proven right.
There were glimpses of a plan under Frank in several games. Some good halves of football. With the injuries and the shitness of the squad nobody was going to get results.
This Tudor geezer is so far out of his depth it's painfully obvious he won't see out beyond the next 4-6 games.
Wait and see