Aside from that, thought we were brilliant.
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Manager Igor Tudor
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This is the most aggrevating thing for me at the mo, the smug looking media and outsiders enjoying our situation. They wont shut up.
Its a long shot at the moment but a win against palace will silence them a bit temporarily. 10 Cup finals start now.
Why wouldn't they - it sells them clicks - gets them engagement - it's literally their job to make a meal out of this.
No idea why anyone would take this kind of thing personally.
The point of getting Tudor in was for the bounce , if u don’t get it then questions need to be asked , I don’t want to hear what i know , which is the players don’t give a fuck , I want him to get them to give a fuck and if he can’t which isn’t looking likely , then he needs to go .
If we lose the next two - what is the point in keeping him?
He will obviously have been a mistake .
Try someone else - they could not be worse
As much criticism as the club deserves, they drop down the list of our enemies now.
Right now it’s just about wiping those smug looks off their faces.
Have to hope the players understand that. IT clearly does
It's taken Tudor 2 weeks to realise the club is not serious. I remember Les Ferdinand saying the club had a Sunday League feel to it when he arrived from Newcastle. The professionalism was lacking, and the environment was not conducive to elite performance. Truth be told, we have been like this for years. Tudor is probably use to certain standards, walks in here and he see's players with absolute control of everything. They know, they can down tools and see off whoever they don't like. Someone has to stand up to these players and make them feel some sense of responsibility. Unfortunately, Tudor is on a hiding to nothing. He's the substitute teacher who won't be here next season. It feels like ENIC are just sleep walking into the Championship. I would remove Vinai and Lange right now. Both have outstayed their welcome and both have been useless.
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The balance of the team is wrong and we don’t have enough players with different attributes. No pace, not much individual skill in the final third particularly at the moment with the injuries, Frank was terrible though no doubt about that imo. We’ve got some good players and better players than a lot of teams but we don’t have a way of playing, no chemistry between players, no way of playing out or working chances. Souza, LWB, Thompson might be less of a risk than what we’re doing now.
If we don't win against Palace, Liverpool game becomes a free hit, no chance we are getting anything from that game. Then are we really going to dismiss Tudor? Wouldn't wish to use the word fire or sack on him, poor bloke coming on here with the shock of his life. I would wish for him to stay till the end of season hoping to get us through safely. But like some of you saying, no manager bounce is killing us and it may be even more detrimental now especially if he couldn't get his line up correct.
Vinai and Lange would then need to leave together with Tudor like you said. Their mistakes just can't keep compounding.
After Liverpool game would be the AM 2nd leg. It could well be over in the 1st. So maybe that could be all for naught. An unpopular opinion, but I would then get Ange back. His aura for the players may well be just enough to tide through. Honestly nobody is going to come in with 8 games to go and start learning everything. Ange would be able to resume it quite immediately from where he left. The next game after AM will be Forest, couldn't write a better script for that.
It’s deleted now, but even the official premier league twitter took the piss out of a Vicario free kick. It’s so fucking unprofessional.
I assume he's going to get a ban/fine for his comments about the Ref?
I thought that was rather weird, expect that kinda thing from Paddy power.
The officiating against us , posts like that...it's all rather worrying
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He's in the impossible job really
Players don't seem to care
Injuries galore
Doesn't really have the players for his system
No transfer window to get any reinforcements
Brutal first fixture
I feel sorry for him tbh
Players don't seem to care
Injuries galore
Doesn't really have the players for his system
No transfer window to get any reinforcements
Brutal first fixture
I feel sorry for him tbh
Seems like a nutter of the Conte-kind. Have a feeling he could just walk away if he feels the job is impossible.
I am not saying we should dismiss Tudor either. Ultimately, very few managers can come in, resonate with these players and turn the tide. For Ange's faults, and there were many, the players did appear to respond to him. Might be a gamble worth taking if we lose Thursday / Sunday and get booted out of the CL. Ange in the dugout for the Forest game would be very interesting.
He won’t do that. It’s a short contract and frankly the job isn’t by any stretch impossible. All he has to do is not go behind West Ham AND Forest whilst having a 4 point lead and a few very favourable fixtures.
He literally just has to win a couple of games and we’re there. If we beat Palace and West Ham lose, that’s basically job done ffs.
Did you read his quotes after yesterday. He's starting to realise what he's walked into.
I’m not sure anyone will get a bounce out of some of these fuckers!
Personally I think some of the big names have checked out already and are more concerned with planning their exits than getting us out of the mire.
We regularly surrender the midfield due to having one of the most technically limited ones in the league. Some of Frank’s eccentricities were making things worse ; but issues related to personnel run far deeper there.
Wouldn’t be the end of the world if we had good box defenders that could constitute the backbone of a team that could sit back and defend for prolonged periods to grind out clean sheets&results.
Instead we conceded at least 2 goals in each of our last 8 league games, with teams regularly creating clear cut chances through crowding the box before punting it there.
Not sure how much yelling and screaming it would take on his part to remedy either one of these issues in such a short time, but I’m not optimistic.
Wouldn’t be the end of the world if we had good box defenders that could constitute the backbone of a team that could sit back and defend for prolonged periods to grind out clean sheets&results.
Instead we conceded at least 2 goals in each of our last 8 league games, with teams regularly creating clear cut chances through crowding the box before punting it there.
Not sure how much yelling and screaming it would take on his part to remedy either one of these issues in such a short time, but I’m not optimistic.
If we lose the next two games - then it would be madness to keep him.
He will have proved himself to be 100% useless. He was only ever supposed to be good at the beginning.
Get rid - and and get Maresca for the last 8 games - and maybe Europe
Frank did not lose 4 on the spin - in hindsight we would hake been better off with Frank over Tudor.