Under Francis/Gross/Graham there was usually one player at the club who could do things to get you excited in a game ... like Sheringham or Ginola. As a team we were just poor.
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I felt exactly the same re. our false position vs performances, except for the fact that that dinosaur, and others like him, have won tonnes of trophies with that backs to the wall 'jammy' style, so I still managed to somewhat ignore what I was seeing and allowed myself to hope.
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You do get the sense that short of relegation, this is a near perfect storm for Levy and we’re really at a crossroads. We’ve had issues with the manager and our more talismanic and want-away players in the past, but not at the same exact time. We’re likely also to be without any meaningful European football next season.
The new manager’s probably the most critical issue at this point, but assuming we do get someone in that inspires some hope, we have the problem of Levy and Hitchen and their track record on playing talent management and squad building. Even assuming Kane goes for a tidy sum and/or we can let our deadwood go, how much confidence can we really have in the incomings, in terms of quality and timing?
It’s clearly going to be an eventful summer, and I’d like to believe that we’re all invested enough in Spurs that we will be behind the club if there are any positive moves and genuine intent. But we’re also at a point where we’ve truly had enough of Levy and company and have no patience left with more bullshit and myopic decisions.
The new manager’s probably the most critical issue at this point, but assuming we do get someone in that inspires some hope, we have the problem of Levy and Hitchen and their track record on playing talent management and squad building. Even assuming Kane goes for a tidy sum and/or we can let our deadwood go, how much confidence can we really have in the incomings, in terms of quality and timing?
It’s clearly going to be an eventful summer, and I’d like to believe that we’re all invested enough in Spurs that we will be behind the club if there are any positive moves and genuine intent. But we’re also at a point where we’ve truly had enough of Levy and company and have no patience left with more bullshit and myopic decisions.
No. It’s not.
I think losing a CL final was pure shite for my soul.
I had real hope and expectations that night. Think it fucked the squad up a bit too.
This season all a bit meh. No fans. A dickhead manager.
Worst case scenario we might even make a profit!!
I think losing a CL final was pure shite for my soul.
I had real hope and expectations that night. Think it fucked the squad up a bit too.
This season all a bit meh. No fans. A dickhead manager.
Worst case scenario we might even make a profit!!
The good news is that with those couple of seasons of "moderate success"and the champions League final, spurs will have picked up many new fans around the world who believed they were on to a winner. We won't have to suffer alone
Can someone not see what this thread is and quietly remove it.....it's tempting fate. One big stinky Graham Potter induced Kane free relegation coming up.
"Would you like that with fries sir?"
"Would you like that with fries sir?"
You write, “they have been one of our main rivals along with woolwich Manu Man city liverpool and others”. You are conflating teams we compete with to our one true rival - Woolwich.
The rest are teams we want to beat, out perform. We might not like them but we arent obsessed by them.
Chelski on the other hand are weirdly obsessed with us they chant “we hate Tottenham” before every game, they and their plastic fans are desperate to have us as their rivals but by and large we dont give a shit about them and thats the way it should be. They are a bunch of wankers.
Much as Tim was a dick I much preferred his football to Jose/Mason/AVB. I was actually entertained for a few of the games.
That is a very good point. Previously it was always let’s get the stadium money maker built then we can push up. Now it’s done and we are going backwards.
I cannot disagree with that, but the level of cringe was unbearable for me . It depends also on personal stuff, I guess: back then I was in a worse place than now
I have never hated a manager more than Jose before he joined us. But when he joined I swallowed all my hatred and wanted to support him : this has been the biggest effort I have ever made as a Spurs fan (I have even believed early in the season that we would have won the title with him). But in the end the feeling I have always had for him was right.
Now I don't even hate him: year after year I just pity him more
The fact that he has been sacked a few weeks ago makes me bear all this current shit a bit more (I was afraid that Levy wouldn't have sacked him because of the cost involved)
Now I don't even hate him: year after year I just pity him more
The fact that he has been sacked a few weeks ago makes me bear all this current shit a bit more (I was afraid that Levy wouldn't have sacked him because of the cost involved)
I think that next season may not be much better in terms of achievements , but it will feel much better, for two reasons:
- it will have a feel of a new beginning
- lower expectations
Big summer for the bald guy. Let's see how the words he said yesterday will turn into facts
The first thing I am expecting is to know who is our new manager on Monday morning
- it will have a feel of a new beginning
- lower expectations
Big summer for the bald guy. Let's see how the words he said yesterday will turn into facts
The first thing I am expecting is to know who is our new manager on Monday morning
Those were particular moments though and it is usually those that stay with you. But you'll be hard pressed to find a season that has had such a continuous serious of let downs and disappointments as this one. An absolute shambles from start to finish.
2/10.
No it’s not the worst season, not even close. It’s a poor season by the standards that Poch set but judged against the last 25 years it’s a decent points return. We played a final as well.
It just feels like the worst because we were so close to making the final step towards being competitive in the league and instead we’ve shat ourselves and gone back to mediocrity.
It just feels like the worst because we were so close to making the final step towards being competitive in the league and instead we’ve shat ourselves and gone back to mediocrity.
That's it. We have gone from as high as we have been in a very long time to this now. All our hopes and dreams crushed and now falling apart around us. Players and a manager who were sublime to players and a recently departed manager who were ridiculous.
I know we always pick ourselves up but I can't at the moment see how we go forward.
Not for me.
I can’t remember which season it was but it was 2003 or something where we were not far off the relegation battle.
That was the worst season for me, this season is perhaps the second worst.
I can’t remember which season it was but it was 2003 or something where we were not far off the relegation battle.
That was the worst season for me, this season is perhaps the second worst.
In my supporting memory (1995 till today) - yes absolutely and mostly due to the scale of collapse from genuine title contenders in 2017 to this
The late 90s / early 2000-2003 teams were worse in terms of player quality - but expectations were also lower then.
We are without a doubt in for rudderless times
The late 90s / early 2000-2003 teams were worse in terms of player quality - but expectations were also lower then.
We are without a doubt in for rudderless times
1993/4: We finished 3 points off relegation
1996/7: We finished 6 points off relegation
1997/8: We finished 4 points off relegation
I understand our expectations have shifted, but this is why deep down I just can't get too worked up about sacking the board, sacking Levy, calling Mason a cunt, and whining that we've never had it so bad.
Newsflash: we have had it this bad and indeed much much worse. I'm not saying this season has been good enough, not by a long shot. We reached heights we could only dream of previously under Poch and the failure to build on it is criminal. The blame lies solely with Levy, and not because of a lack of investment but bad investment. We've spunked money down the drain on players who aren't good enough, or aren't wanted by a manager. This is what needs to change.
Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe the pandemic year has made me tired. I don't know. All I know is next year we go again.
1996/7: We finished 6 points off relegation
1997/8: We finished 4 points off relegation
I understand our expectations have shifted, but this is why deep down I just can't get too worked up about sacking the board, sacking Levy, calling Mason a cunt, and whining that we've never had it so bad.
Newsflash: we have had it this bad and indeed much much worse. I'm not saying this season has been good enough, not by a long shot. We reached heights we could only dream of previously under Poch and the failure to build on it is criminal. The blame lies solely with Levy, and not because of a lack of investment but bad investment. We've spunked money down the drain on players who aren't good enough, or aren't wanted by a manager. This is what needs to change.
Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe the pandemic year has made me tired. I don't know. All I know is next year we go again.
I don't know, when the start of the Gerry Francis era was great, we almost qualified for the UEFA cup that year after he took over the sinking ship. So close.