There are plenty of members that don't even venture into the ITK section but they still donate. There's a lot more to SC than the transfer forum, which is only accessible twice a year. It does greatly increase the numbers though and there are some that visit for that and that alone.How much money can they actually get from donations - just enough to keep the forum up and running surely? Or maybe Levy is A&C and that’s where our transfer kitty comes from?
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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread
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Doesn't seem to be an issue. Unless you want to converse with Mrs P. In which case you should watch your language.
You snively little passive-aggressive pussy. You wanna call me out but then do it this way instead of tagging me huh?
And when was this ever in fucking dispute? There has been a committee and although it was never stated it our tete a tete it was understood. But how the fuck does that reconcile with your statement...which was the point in contention:
And this is the whole point of contention you stupid fuck. And you've proved my fucking point. You tried to solely blame Poch and I defended that revision. The article you posted shows it was a committee, which most had already known, but only the truly moronic wouldn't see through it all and know that DL held the cards. But that doesn't matter because what we now have reporting on is that it wasn't jsut Poch's call just like every other manager here. And it sure wasn't Poch's call for the Sammy-Summer either or many of the other N'koudous or N'Jies etc. And your post says Poch had "responsibility for recruitment" which is incorrect according to reporting. That fell to Hitchens who then reported to the committee. Or do you have difficulty reading?
How stupid do you have to be to post something to prove your own point wrong? And then still come out thinking you smell of roses? So who did screw up recruitment then? Wouldn't it be more precise to say 'the committee'? But the smart money is on the man in control of the money.
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I think I'm more shocked that we have/had scouts. It must either be the most relaxing or stressful job depending on how much you gave a shit.
Wouldn't mind Levy giving a run out in the scouting department for those smug Athletic/Tifo metrics based hipsters. They'd want to hide their signings behind a paywall that's for sure.
Wow BC this doesn't make you look good. Sure not blaming solely Poch like you 'youth watchers'. Still blaming the same person I was blaming before the posting of an article with widely known info in it. Amazing that I would have posted that in fucking defence of my own point. Amazing.
Kinda looking like my 3 is a fuckload more accurate than his 7 now isn't it? Perhaps this is why you rate our youth so highly, you math(s) is shit and when you say 7 it's really 3 to the rest of the world. Which, if you think about it, is about the level we've been seeing with what we are producing. So crack on BC.
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That article was way behind the curve though, Mitchell was put on gardening leave mid 2016. This is effectively when Poch was made "manager" and his powers increased.
Here's another article dated June 2017, but is talking about things that happened in 2016, expressively talking about how one of the first pieces of evidence off this was in summer 2016 when Poch persuaded Levy to up his offer for your boy Sissoko:
Mauricio Pochettino is showing off his power at Tottenham
Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino is flexing his power muscles around White Hart LaneTottenham fans have been able to complain about the club not backing their manager for years. Current Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino has changed all that. Instead, he's wielding power at the North London Clu...
www.foxsports.com
It also goes some way to explaining why Levy wasn't more decisive in dealing with Eriksen, (as with TA as well) Poch intervened in the negotiations.
This bit resonated:
"The real question becomes whether or not the trend can continue. Pochettino has been given a great deal of rope to make his own choices, but Levy and company will be watching how his decisions work out very closely. If players like Eriksen and Sissoko fail to live up to their price tags, Pochettino’s power erode even faster than it arrived.
Most Spurs fans will take great comfort in the fact that their beloved club is finally backing the manager. Mauricio Pochettino is certainly the most powerful man at White Hart Lane today."
Is that a fact? I get on with D pretty well mate. Thanks though.
You want to know why we don't have a DOF and our club become rudderless in terms of an over arching strategy, that article above and the one
Spursidol
posted tells you why. It was a power play. It happened when Poch has just got us our best finish for decades. I've always acknowledged that this was huge mistake by Levy, but can you imagine what had happened if he'd refused Mr fucking wholesome's desire to be Spurs SAF, and chosen a DOF whilst Poch walked off to Old Trafford? He'd have been lynched by about 99% of fans, the media and the whole of football punditdom. I also think he had big things on his mind at the time as well, and took his eye off the ball.
I still think it was a mistake, but I understand why it happened. Fans don't sing chairman's names. They sung Poch's name. I hope Levy rectifies it and learns from it, and never lets us drift into this type of malaise again.
I've been here 5 minutes, but most women are not the biggest fans of the c word. Pretty sure she posted as such.
Yeah, I'm gonna stop reading right there buddy. It's foxsports and doesn't even have a byline FFS. Do you believe everything you read? Take you 'L' and wear it proudly and join the long line of folks in the wake.
BC why are you talking to me like I don't know this? Yes, we've talked about the DOF etc etc. I agree that NO club should let the manager be in charge of all of that anymore. They are billion pound businesses and no (few if any) moronic manager is prepared to handle that. Point not in contention my man...and never was.You want to know why we don't have a DOF and our club become rudderless in terms of an over arching strategy, that article above and the one
It was a power play. It happened when Poch has just got us our best finish for decades. I've always acknowledged that this was huge mistake by Levy, but can you imagine what had happened if he'd refused Mr fucking wholesome's desire to be Spurs SAF, and chosen a DOF whilst Poch walked off to Old Trafford? He'd have been lynched by about 99% of fans, the media and the whole of football punditdom. I also think he had big things on his mind at the time as well, and took his eye off the ball.
I still think it was a mistake, but I understand why it happened. Fans don't sing chairman's names. They sung Poch's name. I hope Levy rectifies it and learns from it, and never lets us drift into this type of malaise again.
And DL didn't learn because he appointed Mou without a DOF. Using a manager's DOF is tantamount to allowing a manager to be the DOF.
The point in contention was if it was Poch's responsibility. It wasn't, take the 'L'.
How about The Times from Oct 2016 saying the same thing.
Pochettino wants more power over transfers
Mauricio Pochettino wants greater control of transfer policy at Tottenham Hotspur and has told Daniel Levy that he does not want him to find a direct replacement for the club’s departing head of
www.thetimes.co.uk
Right, but as per
Spursidol
's original claim it really happened in mid 2016. not later. Two years after his arrival.
You're looking desperate BC. Take the 'L' and move on. What's the problem here? You don't like the font? Did you have the expectation of me being wrong? I wasn't and I'm not.How about The Times from Oct 2016 saying the same thing.
Pochettino wants more power over transfers
Mauricio Pochettino wants greater control of transfer policy at Tottenham Hotspur and has told Daniel Levy that he does not want him to find a direct replacement for the club’s departing head of
No matter what you bring up you know, I know, and everyone else on this board knows that DL is in micro-managed control of this club from top to bottom. Go back and re-read the stadium build articles. It is who he is. That managers are the patsies when it goes tits up. Poch wasn't tetchy during the Sammy-Summer because he was in control was he? Answer that BC. Answer it.
This summer Poch wasn't screaming to the fucking heavens to change his fucking title back to 'Head Coach' (yeah BC he was signalling to all that wanted to hear and weren't just ready to grind their fucking youth axes) because he had control of transfers. You remember that don't you BC? You do right? Was that a man in control or was that a man betrayed? C'mon BC you can answer that one.
Don't know why or how this is supposed to matter to the points in contention but the timing was already corrected by JoeClash in-thread.Right, but as per
You are tilting at windmills. This is getting fucking embarrassing stop it. Take the 'L' and move on. Learn from this encounter. You shoulda known already but now you know.
I don't understand what exactly you think I am wrong about and you are right about.
Poch clearly took a far more demonstratively powerful role in transfers in and out from 2016. Not only did he instigate, he made sure the Sissoko deal got done. He also prevented Levy from dealing with the Eriksen situation, convinced him to keep negotiating. he also gave him a Me or DOF ultimatum.
All of these things in recent pages you've disputed. Suggesting
Spursidol
was wrong in his timing. Suggesting initially that Sissoko was a DL signing foisted on Poch, saying "if he wanted him why didn't he play him more initially" (he didn't because when he actually got the player he demanded onto the training ground every day he actually realised how big a fuck up he'd made), and blaming Levy entirely for the lack of transfers in the summer of 2018, and failure to appoint a DOF.And constantly shouting "academy cunts" doesn't really make your argument any stronger.
As Richard Pryor would say - I'll take that L and shove it up your ass.
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No I haven't. I have bolded the point in contention many times BC. Perhaps you should have taken the opportunity to fully familiarize yourself with it before jumping into the debate. Then perhaps you wouldn't be wearing that scarlet letter 'L' on your forehead.
No but it does point out exactly why you and the rest of the 'youth watchers' are grinding your axes. But nobody cares because they kids can't play. But this is not the point in contention BC, just the fuel for your (collective) specious claims.
Let it go BC. Do it gracefully...well, at least gracefully going forward.
edit: and I don't use that term. I prefer 'youth watchers' as it seems more appropriate.
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