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Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window

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Why don't we just sign the guy that we want to find a player like?
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I just cannot get my head around if we have a very limited budget why go for Conte. I don’t think he is a cheque book manager but he has a short fuse and is not a patient manager. If he has reasonable aspirations that we fail to meet and walks we will really be struggling.

My only theory which is pretty shaky I admit , is that when the crowd turned on Levy and ENIC sacking Nuno was the right call , they then felt Conte would appease the fans. Appointing Conte has appeased the fans but if he storms out the atmosphere will be way more toxic than the United game .

Great manager, but as each day goes by I am struggling to see the fit
 
re: Bissouma - Have the rape allegations been dismissed yet?

Was on bail til 06/01/22 and has now fucked off the AFCON.
 
No idea about the Red Sox (baseball?); but we're largely back to talking about what they did with the Coutinho money. There's been no massive cash injection.
They spent the Coutinho money on Van Dijk.

Then they had a 142M net spend in Summer 2019.

Nonetheless. I’m largely agreeing with you, that FSG and ENIC have the same “model”. Maximize revenue, be intelligent and targeted in player expenditure, and put heavy importance on a manager getting the most out of players. They and us and Woolwich are one thing, Chelsea, City, and United are (three different) other things.

My point is that succeeding under that model demands doing whatever it takes up to and including losing money to win trophies. That is a non-negotiable business proposition that has always and will always make football a shitty business qua business, unless and until an ESL can be conjured to destroy the sport for capital’s benefit.
 
They were a farce until they finally got their shit together for Klopp.

Fenway weren't there for too long before Klopp arrived. They had a mess to sort out but signings like Coutinho, Suarez, Henderson, Sturridge etc didn't happen with him there. They messed up the Suarez money under Brendan and Carroll was a bad signing, but that's about it. Under Fenway they revitalised a side in mid-table to the point of title challengers, then title and CL winners under Klopp.

I believe they formed a 'transfer committee' and changed their scouting department up post Suarez money splurge too, so they learned from our mistakes. What have we done? Kept the same teams in place despite persistent failures. We've brought in Paratici and the hit rate thus far has hardly improved. It's constant incompetency. Liverpool aren't perfectly run but Fenway have been FAR more successful than ENIC as owners. It isn't even a debate.
 
They're not wrong about being able to draw the crowd though. Football supporters, sports fans in general, are prisoners of their own making. We're the only people actually loyal to the club.

We'll moan, we'll make banners, tens of people will protest outside the stadium, we'll rant on internet forums and Twitter.

Then they'll roll a ball out on the pitch and we'll get stuck in again. And when we die, someone else will be stuck in our place.

Lambs to the slaughter.
This is what American closed shops, bought media and sheep customers allow for.

It’s a different deal being Mike Ashley than being Dan Snyder, personally and financially.

The tide only every so slightly turned against Levy between Zagreb and the Conte Derby with United. It will get worse and worse when we go back there and lower, which is unavoidable, inevitable, a matter of simple mechanics without MASSIVE investment in the squad, immediately.

The ENIC story since 2018 is like Uncut Gems, just raising the stakes and backing deeper into a corner again and again and again and the bill gets bigger and bigger and bigger. It only ends one way.
 
Just out of interest, has anyone actually seen games where Lamptey’s putting in lots of accurate crosses and killer through balls?

The kid’s a zippy little fucker for sure, has some tenacity. All good. But I have yet to see him show much quality or composure in the final third.

Which is what everyone is complaining about Emerson.

Has anyone else seen lots of evidence that Lamptey is a significant upgrade on this side things? Genuine question? I’ve only watched him a handful of times?
Being able to consistently take someone on is a huge deal. It drags players out of position and stretches the defense. Right now, Emerson only gets crosses off when the team creates him an opportunity (and still does little).

Lamptey creates crossing opportunities on his own. This leads to more crossing opportunities and in more dangerous areas. Even if Lamptey is the same caliber crosser as Emerson, he will create more frequent and more dangerous chances.

Emerson’s problems are not just his average crossing ability… it’s that his dribbling ability is non-existent.
 
They spent the Coutinho money on Van Dijk.

Then they had a 142M net spend in Summer 2019.

Nonetheless. I’m largely agreeing with you, that FSG and ENIC have the same “model”. Maximize revenue, be intelligent and targeted in player expenditure, and put heavy importance on a manager getting the most out of players. They and us and Woolwich are one thing, Chelsea, City, and United are (three different) other things.

My point is that succeeding under that model demands doing whatever it takes up to and including losing money to win trophies. That is a non-negotiable business proposition that has always and will always make football a shitty business qua business, unless and until an ESL can be conjured to destroy the sport for capital’s benefit.
In the 3 seasons preceding their title victory, though, LFC brought in €70M, €90M, and €80M more revenue than we did.

While we were in the CL and they were not.

This idea that "FSG did it, ENIC are so shit" just doesnt add up. Its not apples to oranges, but its probably, at best, grapefruits to oranges.

Not to absolve ENIC. Our scouting has been shit and Levy not empowering someone better than himself to oversee football operations in recent history was a massive mistake that maybe we've now corrected. That was the biggest thing FSG did right that ENIC did wrong.
 
Fenway weren't there for too long before Klopp arrived. They had a mess to sort out but signings like Coutinho, Suarez, Henderson, Sturridge etc didn't happen with him there. They messed up the Suarez money under Brendan and Carroll was a bad signing, but that's about it. Under Fenway they revitalised a side in mid-table to the point of title challengers, then title and CL winners under Klopp.

I believe they formed a 'transfer committee' and changed their scouting department up post Suarez money splurge too, so they learned from our mistakes. What have we done? Kept the same teams in place despite persistent failures. We've brought in Paratici and the hit rate thus far has hardly improved. It's constant incompetency. Liverpool aren't perfectly run but Fenway have been FAR more successful than ENIC as owners. It isn't even a debate.
Ironically they did that with people hired from Tottenham. Who conceivably could have done the same thing here if the fucking Fuhrer had given them the same opportunity.

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This is what American closed shops, bought media and sheep customers allow for.

It’s a different deal being Mike Ashley than being Dan Snyder, personally and financially.

The tide only every so slightly turned against Levy between Zagreb and the Conte Derby with United. It will get worse and worse when we go back there and lower, which is unavoidable, inevitable, a matter of simple mechanics without MASSIVE investment in the squad, immediately.

The ENIC story since 2018 is like Uncut Gems, just raising the stakes and backing deeper into a corner again and again and again and the bill gets bigger and bigger and bigger. It only ends one way.
Newcastle averaged basically 50k fans every year of Mike Ashley's ownership. Its not a US phenomenon. Happy or sad, sports fans will stump up and buy the fucking tickets and tune the station in because we're obsessed.
 
They spent the Coutinho money on Van Dijk.

...And the rest of it on?

Then they had a 142M net spend in Summer 2019.

A few months AFTER they won the CL:

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= 30m profit.

Even Minamino didn't arrive til Jan 20.... Their fans were livid.

The same season we had our splurrge ironically...... The same summer we finally had the stadium build behind us.

I can see from TFM, they had about 130m net the year before, but as has already been argued their golden geese didn't hatch mid-stadium project... Ours did.

Timing's a bitch. :(

I’m largely agreeing with you, that FSG and ENIC have the same “model”. Maximize revenue, be intelligent and targeted in player expenditure, and put heavy importance on a manager getting the most out of players. They and us and Woolwich are one thing, Chelsea, City, and United are (three different) other things.

My point is that succeeding under that model demands doing whatever it takes up to and including losing money to win trophies. That is a non-negotiable business proposition that has always and will always make football a shitty business qua business, unless and until an ESL can be conjured to destroy the sport for capital’s benefit.

(See above)
 
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Being able to consistently take someone on is a huge deal. It drags players out of position and stretches the defense. Right now, Emerson only gets crosses off when the team creates him an opportunity (and still does little).

Lamptey creates crossing opportunities on his own. This leads to more crossing opportunities and in more dangerous areas. Even if Lamptey is the same caliber crosser as Emerson, he will create more frequent and more dangerous chances.

Emerson’s problems are not just his average crossing ability… it’s that his dribbling ability is non-existent.
He doesn’t boom in deep crosses from the flank, he just accelerates towards the box and cuts the ball back. Such an exciting player
 
Let's face it the club has fuck all to spend but has somehow managed to get one of the world's best managers to the club and need to back him otherwise he will walk..... So what could go wrong 🤔
 
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