Jose Mourinho

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Do you accept Jose Mourinho as your saviour?

  • Yes

    Votes: 326 65.5%
  • No

    Votes: 172 34.5%

  • Total voters
    498
If I was the Tottenham chairman, I would simply have just signed Carlos Tevez.

Aside from an injury in 2011-12, Tevez played over 30 league games in three of his four seasons there. They also had way more resources financially, we could not have possibly signed him.
 
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"The chairman would have loved Tevez but it wasn't do-able because his wages are whatever they are, £200,000-a-week. Daniel made some enquiries about Tevez and if he could have done it, the chairman would have."

:harrysmile:
So Daniel would have liked that one if he would have paid the wages?

How quickly he forgot when it turned out that Dybala might want a few quid in his contract too.
 
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Airfixx

Eroding the true defnition of glory since 1976...
So Daniel would have liked that one if he would have paid the wages?

How quickly he forgot when it turned out that Dybala might want a few quid in his contract too.
"Quickly" as in 8 years?

Of course us having to pay £36m in image rights to some Argentine gangsters wouldn't have been at all off-putting.
 
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We're 5th in form in the Mourinho era (matchweeks 13-31).
Wolves (over Villa) and So'ton (over Watford) have won so far this matchweek (32).
Kane was injured matchweek 21 and Son out since matchweek 27.
 
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I hear this kind of talk from Spurs fans especially the part about how great the football was under Poch and I wonder what these people were watching for all of 2019 when Poch was here. The football was dreadful and the results were just as bad as the play.

It seems that many want to say that Poch played such great football because of how we played for the early and middle part of his time here and ignore the last year where we really fell off, likewise Jose has his reputation for playing boring football so he gets called out for boring football when it is really no more boring than the football we played under Poch at the end. Its almost like it is difficult to play free flowing, open football when your players outside of a very select few cannot play like that.

I also wonder if some Tottenham fans would rather finish in 14th playing stylish "Spurs" football. I will admit that I am a new-er (originally became a fan in 1996, but not a hardcore follower until around 2008-ish) and am also a dreaded NA fan so I will admit that I may be offside in speaking here to the lifelong, British fans but that notion seems crazy to me. But on twitter and podcasts I am starting to think that is the feeling with some.

So I would ask am I missing something here? Of course every fan of every team would love to play beautiful football while winning each game but that seems impossible. So much more likely is playing pretty nice football while having pretty good success. Where is the line for most people? Is winning most important or style? Is winning absolute importance no matter how awful to watch? is it the reverse and style matters beyond winning? Am I missing something that Spurs should only play a certain style so that matters more to "us" than to other clubs?

Anyways like tl;dr but my point being I think a lot of people are putting too much blame on Jose based on his reputation and not enough blame on the players/make-up of the team and their limitations.
 
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Honestly, it's been so ridiculously long now without picking up some silverware I'll take a bit of 'pragmatic' football for a bit if it gets us over the finish line. I can't tolerate it forever but Jose better do what he was surely brought in for
 
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I think once we get the defensive side sorted he will work on the attack. He said something along the lines of them doing more attacking work yesterday. It’s going to take time to piece all the bits together.
Big time, and it's so obvious that there's an element of treading water until we can get a CDM in the transfer window.

Once that's done, cross fingers, we might even see Ndombele and Lo Celso pulling strings at the same time, which could be jizzworthy.

Back to the here and now: we just saw Kane get his eye in during the whole West Ham match and are about to play an out of form Sheffield Utd. I think we're about to get some positive vibes...
 
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Big time, and it's so obvious that there's an element of treading water until we can get a CDM in the transfer window.

Once that's done, cross fingers, we might even see Ndombele and Lo Celso pulling strings at the same time, which could be jizzworthy.

Back to the here and now: we just saw Kane get his eye in during the whole West Ham match and are about to play an out of form Sheffield Utd. I think we're about to get some positive vibes...
I agree, although not sure about your last sentence. I never like to hang my hat on anything to do with us, as we all know, as soon as things are looking good the carpet is inevitably pulled from beneath our feet.
 
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I do not watch the other teams play much unless playing us but my memory of Chelsea when Jose was there was not of a defensive team but a team that scored goals and won. Now whilst not happy at the way we have played in some matches under Jose I am putting this down to lack of the players to do what he wants and defensively we have been a mess for some time.
 
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I do not watch the other teams play much unless playing us but my memory of Chelsea when Jose was there was not of a defensive team but a team that scored goals and won. Now whilst not happy at the way we have played in some matches under Jose I am putting this down to lack of the players to do what he wants and defensively we have been a mess for some time.
Those who say he is all about defensive anti-football, must account for e.g Real Madrid 2011-12, a team that finished La Liga with 121 goals, +89 goal difference, 32 wins, 100 points. He is doing like many great managers before him, sorting the defence first.
 
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Are we really now pretending Mourinho's sides don't play safety first, pragmatic football? There may be an argument to have about dull football v success if results improve but lets not rewrite his managerial history. I remember similar arguments when Graham came that he would improve the defence before working on the attack. Funnily enough he forgot about the latter.
 
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