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Manager Jose Mourinho
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He is now at a club that doesn't expect to win anything rather than where he had been before as the level of expectation was winning was a must, he has also walked into a club that is a fucking mess with a shifty chairman and in need of a lot of work this will take time.
You think you can judge a manager after half a season? You could but you would be wrong too.
Why do you think Mourinho thought the current team was good enough to challenge for the league? With the form of the team he was walking into it was clear to everyone that was never going to be the case.
You think Mourinho had a hand in the board deciding to remove Poch and replace him? How does that work?
You don't think we played with an identity yesterday? Did you watch the game? We could and most probably should have won the game, certainly should have got a draw.
You think a manager who has won trophies at every team he's managed, including 3 at a shite Utd (his last job) is past it? Nonsense.
You don't have an agenda? Yes.. you clearly do!!
He has to be fair. He's played Dav more than Poch this season*, gave Sess his chances at both LB and LW (he was decent I mut say), and played Tanganga as well. His style of football is not as decent to watch as Poch's style, but, even Poch's style this season, especially against teams like Shef.Utd and Everton (games which ultimately cost him his job) was dreadful. I did like a thing José said yesterday though, that we can't play yet for 90 minutes with the intensity that we played for the last 20 minutes. Problems are clear and obvious, the players that need replacing or demoting to the bench are clear, and the last 20 minutes yesterday were very promising from my view.
He won't get money, thus he won't be given the time.
Read the first line and absolutely disagree. Football has moved on? Rubbish.
It doesnt matter whether they come through youth or we buy young players or more established players. The important thing is we have a squad capable of winning.
Theres too much importance attached to tiki takka and sexy football. Winning football is what matters.
He may have to buy younger players. But he will be given more time than he had at Chelsea/Real Madrid.
That seems to be the deal with him and levy.
He doesn't need the amount of spending he needed at United. At United, he had to get 9 new players to compete. Here he needs max 3/4. Big difference.
Exactly. full backs. CM and we can start competing. Provided Tanganga can save us a CB.
We desperately need a couple of fullbacks that are expanisve, can cross and assist.
Akbar? That you...?
Yesterday made me believe that Mourinho will do something special with us IF he is backed.
We had a solid game plan which was unlike the shit we served up against united and chelsea. Tanganga basically man marking Mane from a centre back position was a very good idea. Our defensive set up was generally good but couldn't compensate for our struggles in the midfield. His decision to start Eriksen was wrong in hindsight but i get what he was thinking. Eriksen pussying out of 50/50 challenges should see the end of his time here for good now but yes the game plan nearly worked.
We had a solid game plan which was unlike the shit we served up against united and chelsea. Tanganga basically man marking Mane from a centre back position was a very good idea. Our defensive set up was generally good but couldn't compensate for our struggles in the midfield. His decision to start Eriksen was wrong in hindsight but i get what he was thinking. Eriksen pussying out of 50/50 challenges should see the end of his time here for good now but yes the game plan nearly worked.
I'm torn on Aurier though. He is an idiot, but, he has a 50/50 chance between being the best player and getting sent off. If we want to compete for the top 4 (which I doubt Mourinho does), Aurier is decent enough, but if we want to compete for titles, Aurier is just a bit too inconsistent to do that. I'd be more than happy to have Aurier as a back-up RB. But yes, for winning titles, 2 FBs and especially a CDM are a must. Quite possibly even a GK (both Hugo and Gazza are good, but Hugo will start to decline while Gazza just lacks that bit to be called a world-class keeper).
If he doesn't walk out, I reckon he will be sacked before the end of next season. Buying young players is all well and good but the expectations of the board are still going to be the same, top 4.
They have to be 3/4 GOOD players though. Our scouting system is almost none existent add to that top players like Kane and Son can't keep waiting for the club to bring in 3/4 players over 3/4 years.
The average time a manager is in a job is 165 days. At the end of the season, he will be almost exactly halfway through the average life expectancy, of course, he should be judged on what he's done on the previous days in office. He might have done a brilliant job by the end of the season, are you saying he should be judged if he's been brilliant and won us the CL, FA Cup and got us 2nd in the league?
Mourinho words: Jose Mourinho claims Spurs ‘can win Premier League next season’
No, I do not think Mourinho had a hand in Poch being removed, that's absurd, where the hell did you get that from?
An identity is something that's repeatable. It's synonymous to that particular team, Liverpool, City, Wolves, Leicester, Southampton, Burnley, Newcastle to name but a few play with an identity that defines them. In that list there are big differences to the identities but you know more or less how each of these teams are going to play win lose or draw. We play with no identity, no two games are alike and in many cases no two halves are alike.
If we have an identity, what is it? Describe how Tottenham play.
The trophies he won at Utd were the EL and League Cup. There was no open-top parade (there might be if we won those??) but this is the now boring and tiresome debate about the value of those competitions, the one thing that's clear is they are 100% not seen as an elite trophy however you choose to spin it. Stadia are empty whilst the teams play in the earlier rounds, only ever capacity is met in the final and even then I believe the League Cup hasn't sold out for nearly a decade! To win the EL first you have to fail to qualify for the CL. and no, this doesn't mean I don't want Spurs to win one of these. It's just it's not seen as an achievement by Utd, or else they would have celebrated it.
What is my agenda then mate?
You said- The point is both Jose and The Board believed this team was still good enough to win the league and that a change of manager was required to rejuvenate the training sessions.
You clearly have a inherent dislike of Mourinho.
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We had the same game plan as always. Sit deep and hoof the ball away at any chance. If you think there's something new about Eriksen not getting stuck in challenges, I don't think you've watched too much football over the years. It's just ppl making this up, because they REALLY need a scapegoat at this time.
So the only times we've played well under Mourinho, is late in the games when we've been trailing and chasing the equalizer. When Mourinho changes away from his, again, wrong setup and just lets the players push up and chase like wild men.
So all the excitement ppl got from yesterdays game, was probably more down to the introduction of Tanganga. A little to hang our hopes on going forward.
Read it again and then again. At no point does that say or even remotely imply that Jose had a hand in Poch being replaced. Where the fuck does it say that?
I've taken the words of Jose and the Club from when we appointed Jose:
Jose Mourinho appointed new Head Coach
We are delighted to announce the appointment of Jose Mourinho as Head Coach on a contract that runs until the end of the 2022/23 season.
www.tottenhamhotspur.com
Jose Mourinho claims Spurs ‘can win Premier League next season’
Mourinho will attempt to win Tottenham’s first title in 60 years
www.independent.co.uk
You’ve dropped another bollock
You are now saying we were woeful all season, but you claimed Dele had never been poor and Poch was doing a brilliant job.