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Mythbusting | Kevin Danso 🇦🇹

Having studied Will Still's Lens and been an avid watcher before he arrived, I'm pretty familiar with Danso.

If you're a Spurs fan looking for a TLDR: I think he has strengths that suit Ange, and some weaknesses that NEED improving...

But, I'd appreciate if you stuck around for the nuance 🫡

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First: context.

To understand Danso, especially from a statistical POV, you need to learn a little about Lens history.

Danso was a key player under Franck Haise, the coach who made Lens a club that you've actually heard of. He's been in charge since their promotion to Ligue 1 in 2020, and Danso joined at the beginning of the 2021-22 season.

Now, Haise did switch between a back three and back four, but generally he stuck with the former. That saw Danso play down the middle as a CCB.

Lens could be a relatively aggressive side, but they generally defended quite zonally.

Last summer however, Haise left and everyone's favourite Will Still took over, and he instituted some key changes:
▪️ He switched Lens to total m2m marking
▪️ Has been much more split between a back three and a back four

The former has seen Lens go more aggressive, with their PPDA (Passes per defensive action, how many passes it takes for Lens to make a defensive action) going from 10.33 passes last season to 8.19 this season.

....okay in English, Lens are pressing higher, m2m.

And I think this is a primary reason why some of Danso's stats look a bit weird, compared to last season:
▪️ Fouls p90 have nearly tripled
▪️ Tackles have nearly doubled
▪️ Interceptions more than doubled
▪️ His ground duels won % have fallen massively from 63% last season to 44% this season.

Why?

Well, Danso has gone from a relatively passive CCB in a back three to someone having to track opponents into their half, get really tight to them, try and win/intercept the ball. And, if he can't win the ball, foul them to stop a counter attack.

He's getting asked to do verrrry different things to what he was doing last season, and he's had to adapt to it.

Now, with THAT said, I think staying at Lens under Still has been good for Danso's development, and we'll get into why right now, starting with the positives - and I promise, there's more positives than weaknesses.

🟢 Physicality

Danso is around 6ft 3 and a rock. I've found the opposition STs consistently struggle with their back to goal against him, especially as Danso is quite rough in duels.

He'll happily give players a push, an elbow in the back, and do anything to put them off. When he's fighting over a loose ball, I think he's the favourite to win it.

This also helps him bully players in the air, consistently putting up 65-70% aerial win rates. I'll add to that, Danso can aim + power his headers pretty impressively. So, if an opponent clears it towards him, he can send the ball straight back towards the penalty area.

🟢 Pace

Spurs fans rejoice. I've noted before that Danso, once he gets going, can keep up with quickkk players. There's a good clip this season where he's able to beat Hakimi to the ball in a full sprint.

That said, a small weakness is his acceleration. Once Danso gets going = rapid. But, he's a little slower to actually get going.

🟢 Short-range Passing

Let's get one thing clear; Danso isn't the next Van Dijk. Don't expect him to start pinging balls into attackers' feet deep within the block.

That said, I know he can find those smart passes. He tends to need a bit of time on the ball to find them, and to be sure it's likely to be successful, but he's reliable at firing balls into attackers' feet with the right weight and accuracy.

I don't think he does this too often because A). He can be a bit hesitant, but more importantly B). Lens tend to progress the ball in wider areas against a block. Danso's role then, is quite often just to circulate the ball side-to-side without probing too much.

In this regard, he's pretty reliable too though. As, he can make passes both off his right and left (weaker) foot. He's not going to be spraying passes with his left or anything, but it's nice that he can play passes on both to get out of pressure.

🟢 Anticipation

I'm still working on my ability to analyse defenders, it's a tricky task. But, I do feel confident in saying that Danso has a strong reading of the game.

That's shined this season in his ability to intercept passes before their made, tweaking his positioning so he's ready to get across the ball when kicked.

But I find it stands out more in box defending. Danso keeps his eyes locked on the ball, and again, makes subtle shifts in his movement to get into better positions.

🟢 Ball carrying

I think this is Danso's best in-possession trait - which is funny, because the numbers don't show it!

I really like that when Danso sees space to go into, he'll take advantage of it. And that's not necessarily through tackles or through pressure, but more against a block.

To lay out an example:
- Danso is playing against Auxerre, who are sitting deep.
- He's got the ball on the halfway line, and there's no amazing passing options available.
- So, he probes, carrying forward slowly keeping close control of the ball
- Until he's gone about 20 yards and started pulling Auxerre forwards out
- It's at that point he hits it wide, and Lens can go forward.

It's a really subtle thing, but not every CB does it. This was my main complaint of Branthwaite for example. It's positive on-ball mentality.

!!! I'll also add to this quickly: Danso can surprise attackers too by taking it round them. When he has space to exploit, he's happy to try and dupe them, hit it past and beat them to the ball. Also, he's surprisingly okay in tighter spaces, with decent footwork.

That said, he tends to take quite big touches. So, while I believe the thinking behind his ball carrying is good, I wouldn't want him to be doing it too much.

He can be guilty of overcarrying and getting himself in trouble. But, that's something which can be coached out of him imo.

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To recap, my main positives are:
🟢 Reliable short-range passing
🟢 Strong physicality + aerial dominance
🟢 Reading of the game
🟢 Good pace over large distances
🟢 Positive ball carrying

These are all traits which I think would be beneficial to Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham.

So, let's ruin your fun and have a look at a few things which definitely need to be ironed out quickly if Danso is to succeed in the Premier League...

🔴 1v1 duels

Yeah, so I'm scared when Danso is 1v1 with a good attacker.

This is how that situation tends to go at it's worst:
- Danso approaches, planting his feet firmly (not staying on his toes)
- The attacker feints one way
- Danso plants a foot one way
- The attacker bursts the opposition direction
- Danso decides he's going to commit to a challenge, and does so by lunging in with his leg, bent at the knee
- He either gives away a foul or gets left behind

The bent-knee tackling I think is the biggest issue, because it seems to be his go-to technique. Rather than trying to poke the ball away, it's like Danso is just 100% going for it, and it means if he can't touch the ball, he's going to have to get back up and then chase after it. It's everything or nothing with him in the tackle.

That said, it's only been shown more this season imo because Danso is less protected in a m2m system, and as a RCB in a back two.

Previously under Haise, as a CCB in a back three, Danso was less exposed to 1v1 duels. So, perhaps it's something he's already improving on.

But as a 26-year-old defender in a top-five league, idk, it's a little worrying. My guess is that he's been able to rely on just using his physicality to bully players throughout his career, so learning to tackle more cleanly could pose a new challenge to him.

🔴 Tendencies under pressure

Okay okay DON'T PANIC. I don't think Danso is someone to make many mistakes when he's pressed by an opponent. Not sure this is a Dragusin 2.0 situation.

That said, Danso does have a tendency to just hoof balls forward first time if he's receiving and an opponent is closing him down. That's something which Ange would likely hate.

Caveat: this could also be because Will Still wants Lens to be quite vertical. He wants them to play long balls forward into channels. However, I did skim through a couple of games from last season and felt the same about Danso.

🔴 Long-range passing

Another caveat: the long-range pass success% has fallen for every Lens defender this season. Also, Danso has pretty good vision, and can spot runs being made in behind + find them with clipped balls over the top.

It's just frustrating that the accuracy, or rather the power, is so inconsistent. I think he tends to underpower them, and they can get blocked in midfield areas. Not ideaaaal.

~~~~~~~

So, there's more positives than negatives, as promised...it's just one of those negatives is quite a biggy.

I hope Danso succeeds though, and I do believe if you can fix his poor approach to 1v1 duels, you could end up having a really well-rounded defender in your ranks ✅


I enjoyed reading that ; but must have nodded off halfway;

What happens at the end ?
 
Why the fuck is the Spurs side of the internet acting like this possible signing is like the next coming of Christ?

I've got flooded with bullshit on my phone & I didn't see this kind of shit when Kinsky got Signed even when Forster is a HOWLERISTER...

This is embarrassing as a Spurs fan even if it's confirmed...I'm not jaded but all of this over a CB?!?!?

Can someone explain this to me???
There’s genuinely a top reason for the excitement … and I thought it was common knowledge
 
Not great sources, but was reading that Danso had failed a medical at Juve not long before he joined us - and had failed a Roma medical last year.

Hopefully nothing serious - I imagine Premier League medicals would be the most thorough.
 
Not great sources, but was reading that Danso had failed a medical at Juve not long before he joined us - and had failed a Roma medical last year.

Hopefully nothing serious - I imagine Premier League medicals would be the most thorough.
Heart problems that were apparently fixed/invalidated after the medical. Still a big issue for insurance in Italy, even after beeing medically cleared. Same as with Eriksen.
 
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Not great sources, but was reading that Danso had failed a medical at Juve not long before he joined us - and had failed a Roma medical last year.

Hopefully nothing serious - I imagine Premier League medicals would be the most thorough.

Hopefully it's just bad sources- never good to hear that players are having heart issues :/
 
Wimmer had a great run, when Vertongen was out for a chunk of the season under Poch,think we won most of our games during this spell, he was best mates with Son and helped him settle here. We then got £15m profit.

Would take that kind of result again (though Wimmer fell away).
I must have slept through that great run because all I can remember is a guy who got caught out of position game after game... a guy who didn't have the pace to fall back on when he did make a mistake... a guy that was no good in the air... and a guy who got bullied off the ball...
 
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I must have slept through that great run because all I can remember is a guy who got caught of position game after game... a guy who didn't have the pace to full back on when he did make a mistake... a guy that was no good in the air... and a guy who got bullied off the ball...
Clearly you did, we won something like 12 out of 15 games with just one loss.

There was plenty of discussion whether he should stay in place once Vertonghen returned.

His form nosedived thereafter, perhaps due to losing his place after such a run, but he was a key part of us being right up there in the highlighted period.
 
Clearly you did, we won something like 12 out of 15 games with just one loss.

There was plenty of discussion whether he should stay in place once Vertonghen returned.

His form nosedived thereafter, perhaps due to losing his place after such a run, but he was a key part of us being right up there in the highlighted period.
Yeah I remember Wimmer being really solid during that period Jan was out.

Can’t remember which one but the home game I went to he was absolutely immense.
 
Courtesy ThePreacher ThePreacher

Mythbusting | Kevin Danso 🇦🇹

Having studied Will Still's Lens and been an avid watcher before he arrived, I'm pretty familiar with Danso.

If you're a Spurs fan looking for a TLDR: I think he has strengths that suit Ange, and some weaknesses that NEED improving...

But, I'd appreciate if you stuck around for the nuance 🫡

~~~~~~~

First: context.

To understand Danso, especially from a statistical POV, you need to learn a little about Lens history.

Danso was a key player under Franck Haise, the coach who made Lens a club that you've actually heard of. He's been in charge since their promotion to Ligue 1 in 2020, and Danso joined at the beginning of the 2021-22 season.

Now, Haise did switch between a back three and back four, but generally he stuck with the former. That saw Danso play down the middle as a CCB.

Lens could be a relatively aggressive side, but they generally defended quite zonally.

Last summer however, Haise left and everyone's favourite Will Still took over, and he instituted some key changes:
▪️ He switched Lens to total m2m marking
▪️ Has been much more split between a back three and a back four

The former has seen Lens go more aggressive, with their PPDA (Passes per defensive action, how many passes it takes for Lens to make a defensive action) going from 10.33 passes last season to 8.19 this season.

....okay in English, Lens are pressing higher, m2m.

And I think this is a primary reason why some of Danso's stats look a bit weird, compared to last season:
▪️ Fouls p90 have nearly tripled
▪️ Tackles have nearly doubled
▪️ Interceptions more than doubled
▪️ His ground duels won % have fallen massively from 63% last season to 44% this season.

Why?

Well, Danso has gone from a relatively passive CCB in a back three to someone having to track opponents into their half, get really tight to them, try and win/intercept the ball. And, if he can't win the ball, foul them to stop a counter attack.

He's getting asked to do verrrry different things to what he was doing last season, and he's had to adapt to it.

Now, with THAT said, I think staying at Lens under Still has been good for Danso's development, and we'll get into why right now, starting with the positives - and I promise, there's more positives than weaknesses.

🟢 Physicality

Danso is around 6ft 3 and a rock. I've found the opposition STs consistently struggle with their back to goal against him, especially as Danso is quite rough in duels.

He'll happily give players a push, an elbow in the back, and do anything to put them off. When he's fighting over a loose ball, I think he's the favourite to win it.

This also helps him bully players in the air, consistently putting up 65-70% aerial win rates. I'll add to that, Danso can aim + power his headers pretty impressively. So, if an opponent clears it towards him, he can send the ball straight back towards the penalty area.

🟢 Pace

Spurs fans rejoice. I've noted before that Danso, once he gets going, can keep up with quickkk players. There's a good clip this season where he's able to beat Hakimi to the ball in a full sprint.

That said, a small weakness is his acceleration. Once Danso gets going = rapid. But, he's a little slower to actually get going.

🟢 Short-range Passing

Let's get one thing clear; Danso isn't the next Van Dijk. Don't expect him to start pinging balls into attackers' feet deep within the block.

That said, I know he can find those smart passes. He tends to need a bit of time on the ball to find them, and to be sure it's likely to be successful, but he's reliable at firing balls into attackers' feet with the right weight and accuracy.

I don't think he does this too often because A). He can be a bit hesitant, but more importantly B). Lens tend to progress the ball in wider areas against a block. Danso's role then, is quite often just to circulate the ball side-to-side without probing too much.

In this regard, he's pretty reliable too though. As, he can make passes both off his right and left (weaker) foot. He's not going to be spraying passes with his left or anything, but it's nice that he can play passes on both to get out of pressure.

🟢 Anticipation

I'm still working on my ability to analyse defenders, it's a tricky task. But, I do feel confident in saying that Danso has a strong reading of the game.

That's shined this season in his ability to intercept passes before their made, tweaking his positioning so he's ready to get across the ball when kicked.

But I find it stands out more in box defending. Danso keeps his eyes locked on the ball, and again, makes subtle shifts in his movement to get into better positions.

🟢 Ball carrying

I think this is Danso's best in-possession trait - which is funny, because the numbers don't show it!

I really like that when Danso sees space to go into, he'll take advantage of it. And that's not necessarily through tackles or through pressure, but more against a block.

To lay out an example:
- Danso is playing against Auxerre, who are sitting deep.
- He's got the ball on the halfway line, and there's no amazing passing options available.
- So, he probes, carrying forward slowly keeping close control of the ball
- Until he's gone about 20 yards and started pulling Auxerre forwards out
- It's at that point he hits it wide, and Lens can go forward.

It's a really subtle thing, but not every CB does it. This was my main complaint of Branthwaite for example. It's positive on-ball mentality.

!!! I'll also add to this quickly: Danso can surprise attackers too by taking it round them. When he has space to exploit, he's happy to try and dupe them, hit it past and beat them to the ball. Also, he's surprisingly okay in tighter spaces, with decent footwork.

That said, he tends to take quite big touches. So, while I believe the thinking behind his ball carrying is good, I wouldn't want him to be doing it too much.

He can be guilty of overcarrying and getting himself in trouble. But, that's something which can be coached out of him imo.

~~~~~~~

To recap, my main positives are:
🟢 Reliable short-range passing
🟢 Strong physicality + aerial dominance
🟢 Reading of the game
🟢 Good pace over large distances
🟢 Positive ball carrying

These are all traits which I think would be beneficial to Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham.

So, let's ruin your fun and have a look at a few things which definitely need to be ironed out quickly if Danso is to succeed in the Premier League...

🔴 1v1 duels

Yeah, so I'm scared when Danso is 1v1 with a good attacker.

This is how that situation tends to go at it's worst:
- Danso approaches, planting his feet firmly (not staying on his toes)
- The attacker feints one way
- Danso plants a foot one way
- The attacker bursts the opposition direction
- Danso decides he's going to commit to a challenge, and does so by lunging in with his leg, bent at the knee
- He either gives away a foul or gets left behind

The bent-knee tackling I think is the biggest issue, because it seems to be his go-to technique. Rather than trying to poke the ball away, it's like Danso is just 100% going for it, and it means if he can't touch the ball, he's going to have to get back up and then chase after it. It's everything or nothing with him in the tackle.

That said, it's only been shown more this season imo because Danso is less protected in a m2m system, and as a RCB in a back two.

Previously under Haise, as a CCB in a back three, Danso was less exposed to 1v1 duels. So, perhaps it's something he's already improving on.

But as a 26-year-old defender in a top-five league, idk, it's a little worrying. My guess is that he's been able to rely on just using his physicality to bully players throughout his career, so learning to tackle more cleanly could pose a new challenge to him.

🔴 Tendencies under pressure

Okay okay DON'T PANIC. I don't think Danso is someone to make many mistakes when he's pressed by an opponent. Not sure this is a Dragusin 2.0 situation.

That said, Danso does have a tendency to just hoof balls forward first time if he's receiving and an opponent is closing him down. That's something which Ange would likely hate.

Caveat: this could also be because Will Still wants Lens to be quite vertical. He wants them to play long balls forward into channels. However, I did skim through a couple of games from last season and felt the same about Danso.

🔴 Long-range passing

Another caveat: the long-range pass success% has fallen for every Lens defender this season. Also, Danso has pretty good vision, and can spot runs being made in behind + find them with clipped balls over the top.

It's just frustrating that the accuracy, or rather the power, is so inconsistent. I think he tends to underpower them, and they can get blocked in midfield areas. Not ideaaaal.

~~~~~~~

So, there's more positives than negatives, as promised...it's just one of those negatives is quite a biggy.

I hope Danso succeeds though, and I do believe if you can fix his poor approach to 1v1 duels, you could end up having a really well-rounded defender in your ranks ✅
Thank you for this. I'm one of the few people who has actually read it.

On the surface, I wasn't overly impressed by this signing; especially with the obligation to buy. If a club is forcing you to buy a player at gunpoint, it's not a good sign. We've spent a lot of time clearing the squad of sub-standard players and re-signing another lot of Davinson Sanchezes and Eric Diers isn't the way forward. Short-term loans -yes; permanent transfers for players who aren't part of our long-term plans - no.

But, your diligent assessment of the player gives me hope that things might work out. Hopefully, he won't turn out to be the Vicario of centre backs.

He gets the same clean slate I give every new player. It's up to him what he does with it.
 
I liked this bloke at the Euros. He's what a CB should be, rough tough and a bit dirty. That said I did not see a great ball player. The heart issues and battle through adversity are all part of the narrative.arch Ange loves so hopefully he'll fall hard for Postecoglou and give his all.

I don't think is the full Romero replacement but he can become that if he does the business. From my limited source Romero is most definitely off. Not sure we will see too much of him again. Despite protestations he has taken blue pill....bit like James Maddison. No longer to be counted on. We're the words used.
 
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Another debutant with a clean sheet against Liverpool?

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I liked this bloke at the Euros. He's what a CB should be, rough tough and a bit dirty. That said I did not see a great ball player. The heart issues and battle through adversity are all part of the narrative.arch Ange loves so hopefully he'll fall hard for Postecoglou and give his all.

I don't think is the full Romero replacement but he can become that if he does the business. From my limited source Romero is most definitely off. Not sure we will see too much of him again. Despite protestations he has taken blue pill....bit like James Maddison. No longer to be counted on. We're the words used.

Damn- very interesting post, and makes sense. I do agree that Romero is likely to leave in the summer, and it seems like Maddison will be as well. Depending on our wingers next season I could easily see Ange moving Kulu to Maddison’s old CAM spot…
 
Not great sources, but was reading that Danso had failed a medical at Juve not long before he joined us - and had failed a Roma medical last year.

Hopefully nothing serious - I imagine Premier League medicals would be the most thorough.
Seems to be related to the heart. Italy have stricter rules than elsewhere due to a high profile death. Its why eriksen had to move to play.

Hopefully it's just a slight concern and their rules are overly restrictive
 
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