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Should Ledley go?

  • No, he must stay as long as he likes in whatever capacity

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Redeploy him as assistant physio

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Ledley must go

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • Give him a squad number

    Votes: 16 45.7%
  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
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SausageVince

SausageVince

end of an era
As you all know, I'm often regarded as a barometer of Spurs supporter sentiment.
I know that many of you believe the abject collapse today and the embarrassing aftermath are redolent of Ledley King's continued and recently elevated involvement with the club. That uniquely frail losing mentality, especially at the back.

So, how many believe this? Should Ledley go on the back of this defeat?
 
Yeah King didn't lose us that game but I understand where you're coming from.

We need to move on as a club and submerging players back into the club from a period where we won basically fuck all could be dangerous.
 
If we take into account Lanzinis goal came from a set piece then we've still only let in 1 goal from an opposing player from open play in our last 7 league games.

Up until the 80th minute, we defended fine. I genuinely don't remember Lloris having to make a single save.

It's set pieces we haven't got a clue about.

Calvert-Lewin vs. Everton. Whilst the free kick was taken in the wrong place, Alderweireld and Dier were both ridiculously poor for it.

Penalty vs. Newcastle. Against, whilst it shouldn't even have been a free kick, we didn't deal with it well and were fucked from the resulting handball.

Twice today. Sissoko with a silly foul and then his fault for the actual Balbuena goal too. Then the equaliser, which against like at Newcastle, was NEVER a free kick but again just failed to deal with it and it lead to a wonder goal.

Fuck working on attacking drills in training - we have the best attack in the league. For the next few months, just work solely on defending and set pieces. Please.
 
Hotspurio said:
Yeah King didn't lose us that game but I understand where you're coming from.

We need to move on as a club and submerging players back into the club from a period where we won basically fuck all could be dangerous.
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You are a rare breed, understanding this nuance. I wish you well. It's a lonely place, being this perceptive.
Despite my track record of insight, the bemused masses still think I'm mad.

Imagine we had McGinn in the middle of the park today instead of Winks, for instance.
 
Totti said:
If we take into account Lanzinis goal came from a set piece then we've still only let in 1 goal from an opposing player from open play in our last 7 league games.

Up until the 80th minute, we defended fine. I genuinely don't remember Lloris having to make a single save.

It's set pieces we haven't got a clue about.

Calvert-Lewin vs. Everton. Whilst the free kick was taken in the wrong place, Alderweireld and Dier were both ridiculously poor for it.

Penalty vs. Newcastle. Against, whilst it shouldn't even have been a free kick, we didn't deal with it well and were fucked from the resulting handball.

Twice today. Sissoko with a silly foul and then his fault for the actual Balbuena goal too. Then the equaliser, which against like at Newcastle, was NEVER a free kick but again just failed to deal with it and it lead to a wonder goal.

Fuck working on attacking drills in training - we have the best attack in the league. For the next few months, just work solely on defending and set pieces. Please.
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A respectful evaluation, Totts.
 
SausageVince said:
As you all know, I'm often regarded as a barometer of Spurs supporter sentiment.
I know that many of you believe the abject collapse today and the embarrassing aftermath are redolent of Ledley King's continued and recently elevated involvement with the club. That uniquely frail losing mentality, especially at the back.

So, how many believe this? Should Ledley go on the back of this defeat?
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You always start interesting threads. I am Ledley in, but you are raising an interesting point
 
Totti said:
If we take into account Lanzinis goal came from a set piece then we've still only let in 1 goal from an opposing player from open play in our last 7 league games.

Up until the 80th minute, we defended fine. I genuinely don't remember Lloris having to make a single save.

It's set pieces we haven't got a clue about.

Calvert-Lewin vs. Everton. Whilst the free kick was taken in the wrong place, Alderweireld and Dier were both ridiculously poor for it.

Penalty vs. Newcastle. Against, whilst it shouldn't even have been a free kick, we didn't deal with it well and were fucked from the resulting handball.

Twice today. Sissoko with a silly foul and then his fault for the actual Balbuena goal too. Then the equaliser, which against like at Newcastle, was NEVER a free kick but again just failed to deal with it and it lead to a wonder goal.

Fuck working on attacking drills in training - we have the best attack in the league. For the next few months, just work solely on defending and set pieces. Please.
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I'm not having this Lanzini goal having come from a set piece. A goal from a set piece, in my book is where the ball gets punted into the box from a corner or free kick and headed or kicked etc. straight into the goal.
Today wasn't a goal as a result of a set piece, We could and should have easily cleared that. Having said that it was an absolute wonder strike that no matter what defensive attributes anyone has, you ain't stopping it. Argie cunt.
 
Totti said:
If we take into account Lanzinis goal came from a set piece then we've still only let in 1 goal from an opposing player from open play in our last 7 league games.

Up until the 80th minute, we defended fine. I genuinely don't remember Lloris having to make a single save.

It's set pieces we haven't got a clue about.

Calvert-Lewin vs. Everton. Whilst the free kick was taken in the wrong place, Alderweireld and Dier were both ridiculously poor for it.

Penalty vs. Newcastle. Against, whilst it shouldn't even have been a free kick, we didn't deal with it well and were fucked from the resulting handball.

Twice today. Sissoko with a silly foul and then his fault for the actual Balbuena goal too. Then the equaliser, which against like at Newcastle, was NEVER a free kick but again just failed to deal with it and it lead to a wonder goal.

Fuck working on attacking drills in training - we have the best attack in the league. For the next few months, just work solely on defending and set pieces. Please.
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A little less fucking basketball, netball or whatever the hell that is, please, and more work on the defensive basics :llorisunsure:
 
But let's just remember that we have 3 clean sheets in the lest 5 games last season with exactly the same players at the back. Also we got Hojbjerg that's doing a very good job as a DM. Our defense is shiter than ever and is not only the players fault I think.
 
Guilherme Anater said:
But let's just remember that we have 3 clean sheets in the lest 5 games last season with exactly the same players at the back. Also we got Hojbjerg that's doing a very good job as a DM. Our defense is shiter than ever and is not only the players fault I think.
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Last season is last season. Just like Man U fan bigging their third best defensive record last season, just to concede 12 goals after 4 games this season. After a summer with transfer, and new season starts with 0 point, teams would approach the games differently. Look like not so fancy teams get better at attacking. If you don't thrive to improve, then you're destined to get exposed. Most of our defenders are not very good at defensive work.
 
docomospur said:
A little less fucking basketball, netball or whatever the hell that is, please, and more work on the defensive basics :llorisunsure:
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I agree but you can’t teach defensive basics to useless cunts like Sanchez and Aurier and while we have either playing we’re in trouble defensively
When we have both playing plus Sissoko Winks and Moura we’re fucked
 
A good or even great player doesn't make a good/great coach.

What have Pele and Maradonna done since hanging up their boots? Other than viagra and coke.
What did Greaves do?
What has Roberts ever done?
Hoddle had 5 minutes then hasn't been a coach since.
Gazza had a go ffs.

King may be one of the best CB's we have ever seen, but lets not buy into the notion that guarantees he'll be a great coach. Half of what makes the greatest players is instict, things that can't be learned or subsequently taught.

I get this thread is a joke. It is funny. But there will be people who take it deadly (ledley) serious and think King is guaranteed to be amazeballs.
 
SausageVince said:
As you all know, I'm often regarded as a barometer of Spurs supporter sentiment.
I know that many of you believe the abject collapse today and the embarrassing aftermath are redolent of Ledley King's continued and recently elevated involvement with the club. That uniquely frail losing mentality, especially at the back.

So, how many believe this? Should Ledley go on the back of this defeat?
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what defeat?
 
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