Is that the same 'crappy' Moura who had just scored a hat trick in the semi final and saved our arses ??I
By different side you mean much better side because replacing a crappy Moura with Kane made us a much better side.
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Is that the same 'crappy' Moura who had just scored a hat trick in the semi final and saved our arses ??I
By different side you mean much better side because replacing a crappy Moura with Kane made us a much better side.
Is that the same 'crappy' Moura who had just scored a hat trick in the semi final and saved our arses ??
Yes
But it wasn’t like he scored a hat trick because he was creating a ton of chances he was the guy standing there after others made the plays.
And although there is nothing more that (many) Spurs fans love to do is overrate that one game by him he has a whole career showing that game was by far tge exception than the norm for him.
Yes
But it wasn’t like he scored a hat trick because he was creating a ton of chances he was the guy standing there after others made the plays.
And although there is nothing more that (many) Spurs fans love to do is overrate that one game by him he has a whole career showing that game was by far tge exception than the norm for him.
Let us just isolate the incident rather than try to merge it into the 'overall picture' of the entire season. We have someone who has just scored three goals in a semi and is obviously buzzing and on form but we drop him for the final to play our usual star striker who is not match fit and has not kicked a ball in anger for two whole months. Surely it should have been the other way around ? Moura starts and Kane on later in the second half, hopefully for a cameo appearance and to lift the cup.
Anyway, this has been discussed at extremely great length on this forum and it's one of those "We'll never know" ones. Looking at the situation coldly and rationally I personally think Poch allowed sentiment over common sense and made the wrong choice.
On form?
He had one hot game, largely off the work of other players, a month before the final. He was also largely involved in the absolute awful end of the season we had in the EPL in which he was not close to being in form at all.
Maybe you could argue if the game was the next week but expecting Moura, who had shown repeatedly he was not good enough to be a starter at any position let alone out of position at striker, to carry over his supposed hot start from a month ago is ridiculous.
Moura is a winger, not a striker, and there is a reason he has struggled to even get starts at that position in his time with Spurs. Playing him out of position when a vastly superior Kane is available in the biggest game the team has played in in years would have been ridiculous. There is a reason that when Kane is out we struggle desperately and why we need a back-up striker and that is because player like Moura cannot fill in when Kane is out. If he isn't a good enough striker for mid week EPL games against Sunderland why would we want him starting in the Champions League final.
There are a lot of issues that the fluke run to the CL final papered over for this club but the biggest myth that may have come out of it is that Moura is a good player.
I will just say that to expect Harry to put in a typical "Kane" performance immediately following 54 days off, especially in a CPL Final was at the least 'naieve'. He invariably takes a couple of matches to get back into his stride (this latest episode being a perfect example). We shall never agree so I'll leave it there.
Same trip went into a paper shop another guy came in after me went to the counter and the bloke handed him something from under the counter? It was a copy of the Sun newspaper slipped it inside his jacket and left, is that the situation regarding the Sun paper all over Liverpool the city or Liverpool fc has it the same affect on Everton and their fans?
Yeah I know what impact the Sun had in Liverpool at the time of hillsboro obviously the newspaper shop and the customer were aware of the situation but it didn’t concern all that much as one sold it the other bought/read it.The rag is generally loathed by both sets of fans, especially after the lies printed post Hillsborough.
I've been a lifelong Guardian reader myself, so it's never affected me personally.
Sorry, I wasn’t really trying to have a go. It’s just the extent to which the two clubs have gone in opposite directions since the CL Final last year is truly stunning - but depressingly so - not a surprise. One club has an ownership that has the vision and commitment to push on from the disappointment of the previous season - whilst the other, clearly, doesn’t.
The vast majority of us also really hate the Sun. It got banned from Goodison after Kelvin Mackenzie wrote an article comparing Barkley to a gorilla.Same trip went into a paper shop another guy came in after me went to the counter and the bloke handed him something from under the counter? It was a copy of the Sun newspaper slipped it inside his jacket and left, is that the situation regarding the Sun paper all over Liverpool the city or Liverpool fc has it the same affect on Everton and their fans?
Sounds like summer school for our log then !End of term report for us says "Must pay more attention during lessons and try harder in order to progress".