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2 x games in and none of our new signings have started a game. We won the window they say. Chelsea had 3 new signings in that team. And all look very good. That’s the difference.

Bissouma and Perisic were regaining fitness
Richarlison has to earn his place (and quite possibly just did).

What a stupid post, but as it's you, I'm not surprised.
 

Below is the table relating to the Premier League only. Prior to the Newcastle sale.
From Swiss Ramble. A well respected and reliable source.

ENIC are sandwiched between The Glazers and Mike Ashley.

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As good as we've been, imagine what we could have achieved with a little more priority given to our actual football team
 
As good as we've been, imagine what we could have achieved with a little more priority given to our actual football team
So what you're saying is, and according to THIS chart, now we have an answer to the age old question of "do you want the club to do a Leeds"? Well, yes!
 
Below is the table relating to the Premier League only. Prior to the Newcastle sale.
From Swiss Ramble. A well respected and reliable source.

ENIC are sandwiched between The Glazers and Mike Ashley.

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As good as we've been, imagine what we could have achieved with a little more priority given to our actual football team

Yeah imagine what Liverpool would have been able to achieve if only the owners invested the same amount of money as Everton's owners have :confused:

Grown men are still actually having these debates, amazing.
 
Below is the table relating to the Premier League only. Prior to the Newcastle sale.
From Swiss Ramble. A well respected and reliable source.

ENIC are sandwiched between The Glazers and Mike Ashley.

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As good as we've been, imagine what we could have achieved with a little more priority given to our actual football team
You mean like Everton, Villa, and Fulham did?
 
And yet the same big spending occurred in the 00s and didn’t yield the same results. Mostly because of widening inequality (Man Utd we’re bigger relative to the average club than eg Liverpool we’re in the 80s) but also because of Chelsea being dirty sports washers.

Biggest net spenders in the 00s? Man City and Chelsea.

My figures are from here: Premier League - Transfer income and expenditures

That should give you the 00s. You can click on the expenditure column to give you total cost of players bought and the balance column twice to give total net spend.

Change the dates at the top to 80/81 to 89/90 to see for the 80s.

That tells you that the same actions that brought success in the 80s WOULD NOT WORK in the 00s. It’s so perfect it blows my mind.
We had a high net spend in the 00s but if you add wages to spend I'm pretty sure we would be 6th or 7th, I remember showing Woolwich had 200m more spend even though our fees were a lot higher.
 
And yet the same big spending occurred in the 00s and didn’t yield the same results. Mostly because of widening inequality (Man Utd we’re bigger relative to the average club than eg Liverpool we’re in the 80s) but also because of Chelsea being dirty sports washers.

Biggest net spenders in the 00s? Man City and Chelsea.

My figures are from here: Premier League - Transfer income and expenditures

That should give you the 00s. You can click on the expenditure column to give you total cost of players bought and the balance column twice to give total net spend.

Change the dates at the top to 80/81 to 89/90 to see for the 80s.

That tells you that the same actions that brought success in the 80s WOULD NOT WORK in the 00s. It’s so perfect it blows my mind.

Those figures are pretty speculative.

07/08 we spent £87million?? Not sure about that. Wiki puts it at £58million.

That’s a very big difference.
 
Im seeing net spend of €71.6m for that year. That’s about £58m. Matches perfectly ?

Net spend shows £43m on wiki.

But noticed the Bale transfer is much bigger on the transfer market site.


Either way it’s interesting to see how much the direction of the club changed.

Large investment in a large number of forgettable players in the 00s led to us ripping up the playbook and planning to build the new stadium and compete on a different financial level.

Where the infamous low “net spend” came into full effect and look where we have ended up……..
 
The trouble with these kinda charts is when you have Everton sitting in 6th place it really does render as pretty useless information in terms of how successful a club is through spending more money...!

Even Woolwich have spent more money than our owners and we ridicule them for finishing below us despite winning the transfer window 😆

Fair play to Wolves spending that amount of money too, they were in the championship for a few of those years while we are in the Premier League so who's doing a better job?
 
The trouble with these kinda charts is when you have Everton sitting in 6th place it really does render as pretty useless information in terms of how successful a club is through spending more money...!

Even Woolwich have spent more money than our owners and we ridicule them for finishing below us despite winning the transfer window 😆

Fair play to Wolves spending that amount of money too, they were in the championship for a few of those years while we are in the Premier League so who's doing a better job?
Welp, it's no 'trouble' at all, just factual data. You can integrate it however you life but, as per swissramble, it's just factual data.

Now, if your level of critical thinking leads you down the narrow path you seem to have gone down and doesn't allow you to see any other potential implications from this factual data then that's your problem. But I hope you are not suggesting that yours are the only interpretations from the factual data because that would be false...and foolhardy.

But as I see stevee stevee the genius is still patrolling these waters I will say this, if we had spent a little money on Coutinho we'd be higher up the list. That should satisfy his Coutinho-tourettes for the day.
 
Football is a not a normal industry,
If you were to look at it as a normal industry you would say spurs and united ( leverage buyout ignored) are in fact being run correctly with the companies own money.

Imagine two supermarkets where one store buys stock and sells for a profit and reinvests said profit in new stock and repeats the cycle.
The other store sells stock that it got for free or paid for from the owners pocket. This store would be quickly out of business in the real world.
So all these charts saying how much was invested by owners should not be used as a measure of how well these clubs are ran compared to ours.
 
Football is a not a normal industry,
If you were to look at it as a normal industry you would say spurs and united ( leverage buyout ignored) are in fact being run correctly with the companies own money.

Imagine two supermarkets where one store buys stock and sells for a profit and reinvests said profit in new stock and repeats the cycle.
The other store sells stock that it got for free or paid for from the owners pocket. This store would be quickly out of business in the real world.
So all these charts saying how much was invested by owners should not be used as a measure of how well these clubs are ran compared to ours.

Not to mention that half of those teams it's pretty obvious that their owners are using these clubs as vehicle to launder their dirty cash and to Sportswash, it's utter nonsense.
 
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