So lets assume you're right. And ENIC's number one priority is success on the pitch and trophies.
You'll at least admit that 1 league cup in 19 years, the worst run in the clubs history, means they're making a complete pigs ear of it?
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You'll at least admit that 1 league cup in 19 years, the worst run in the clubs history, means they're making a complete pigs ear of it?
Thanks for posting
FightingIllini
That really is an eye opener. Shocking set of statistics.
Stealing from the supporters indeed.
It is great to see how successful the teams who spend the most are.
Oh, to be following high flying Swansea in the Championship.
I suppose Leicester are bucking the trend. They are spending more than they make and it appears to be working. Not sure about the other ten teams who spend loads on wages.
ENIC steal from us and we get to go to Madrid, Munich, Turin, etc. Or they could spunk every penny against a wall and we could go to Barnsley, Millwall, Luton.
We shouldn't and don't need to spend the most.
We need to not be hoarding profits eight figures beyond what even Stan Kroenke is up to.
EDIT: make that nine figures. 133 million Euro (the 31% between 50 and 81 from our 428M in revenue). Think we'd be a better side if we'd added that to the squad in wages and transfer fee amortization?
This season, we might be a couple of points better off. We might not be. Who out of the current squad is playing better if they get paid more money? Does Son not get sent off on £200k per week, but doesn’t give a shit on £100k? Would Dier be less of an oaf if he were on £150k?
Or are we playing new signings instead of these guys? if only we’d spent about £150m on Ndombele, GLC, Clarke and Sess. Maybe another £400k per week on their wages and they hardly play. We break our transfer record for a midfielder we rarely see, but this would be different if we spent even more? And this is all Levys fault?
Let’s take last season too. €133m would buy us a couple of good players. At the Ndombele / GLC level, remember those guys that can’t get in the team now. Would doing that have won us the league? Or the CL? What difference would they have made?
Let’s suggest instead we spend money on a world class stadium, state of the art training facilities and one of the games greatest managers. That then allows us to generate the money and reputation to sign midfielders who can actually get into the team in the future.
Finally, when we spend money, we are shite at it. You nor I know who is responsible for this and if it is Levy, he needs a slap. I doubt it is, I assume it’s the manager and scouts. But have you seen the state of our top ten transfers? Even our most expensive top twenty? It’s a shambles. But Kane might be a better player if he cost £100m and we paid him £500k per week.
That's the second part of my two-part question.
Are we spending enough on players? I won't judge on one season of data, but being dead last by a mile as a percentage of revenue in the PL, and tens of millions of pounds behind any of the top six is not an acceptable state of things.
Are our expenditures going to the right players? I'm not sure the situation is as dire as you say, but I certainly wouldn't say our player recruitment policy is humming along perfectly either.
I think we are spending enough, but I don’t think we buy the correct players. Or we buy the correct ones and we don’t give them a chance. Neither is the fault of Levy.
Caveat to that is Moutinho who would have been a fantastic buy a few years ago. If Levy arsed that up, as is the rumour, that’s on him. Otherwise, I doubt he’s going out and buying GNK, Janssen, etc without the manager and scouts asking for them.
Hopefully, we can change the type of players we go for. Our successes have been players from Fulham, Zagreb, Sheffield United, Leeds, MK Dons. Let’s try more of that. Bowen from Hull. Grealish from Villa. Dunk from Brighton.
Then reward the manager who took us there with 0 new players for 2 whole transfer windows.
Sack him when the inevitable decline in form occurs.
While simultaneously posting World Record Breaking Profits.
Way to go, man.
Bit like saying we all want to win the lottery cos we risked a couple of quid on a ticket tho isn't it?
Of course Enic would like to win PL and CL trophies but they aren't endeavouring to do so , the real endeavor is increasing revenue and keeping expenses low, if you told Levy he'd have 8 champions League appearances in the next 10 years and no trophies he'd be all over it, he's probably getting his balls lathered up by Kroenke right now his mentor because he's won his Christmas bet by out scrooging the master.
8 average CL group level appearances is worth about £240m. 8 finals is worth about £560m. Plus all the added revenue from being the best in Europe, more foreign fans, even higher ticket prices, more TV revenue, more club shop sales.
I think I know which Levy would prefer. Maybe the over £100m he sanctioned in the summer is an investment in such a future.
Time to move on John. I did not agree at the time that we should not buy anyone. It was said that they could not find anyone to improve the team which again I found hard to believe. But it is now 2 years later and we did spend money in the summer and will have to complete Lo Celso's transfer. Yet this has not improved the team. That is why we are struggling. We should have at least 2 of those players making a significant contribution but they are not. Why? Were they bad signings and who is to blame ? Or were we just unlucky with injuries etc? The failure to intergrate these players is more of a question of our present problems than what happened 2 years ago. I keep reading posters saying these players do not play in the position we need (cm) and yet where did the club expect them to play.
By all means attack Levy for his comments about spending in future but give it a rest regarding 2 years ago.
The difference in net spend and wages to regularly compete for titles would totally dwarf the extra revenue to get there, Levy prefers the more pragmatic Woolwich model. Minimal expenditure high returns.
If Mourinho's recent comments on our intentions in the transfer market are the reality then appointing him will prove to be the biggest excercise of futility that this club will have made for a long time
He is not turning this bunch of useless cunts into a side that wins trophies
It's just not happening
He is not turning this bunch of useless cunts into a side that wins trophies
It's just not happening
His comments re: “I know what kind of club I’m at, I know our objectives” etc are stomach turning and confirm a lot of people’s fears.
Exactly and that's why it's so confusing why Levy employed someone like Mourinho who since Porto has needed and demanded a big chequebook to buy players wherever he has managed. Since Porto anyway
Why not just go for the next shit hot young coach who will be grateful to manage Spurs and will want to work with young players, cheaper signings and go for a rebuild in that way
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Because levy likes to give off the pretence of wanting to win and Mourinho arriving gives the levy lovers more ammo to sh look he loves the club and wants to win, the when it falls apart again they can say it was all Mourinhos fault..
So... you're saying that a football chairman, doesn't want his team to win?
Don't you know that Levy/Enic have been trying to sell the club from the day before they took over.So... you're saying that a football chairman, doesn't want his team to win?
They've been stealing the profits and they only built the stadium so that they can sell the club for more £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
Why would they want us to win trophies, it's not as of that would make us more attractive to buyers......................................Oh wait.
No..I'm saying levy does not care about us winning trophies and being successfull.So... you're saying that a football chairman, doesn't want his team to win?
For him getting into the top 4 is enough to keep us all quiet and spending more money in his gold mine.
We will all see soon enough if he keeps to his word of once we have the facilities we can push on and really compete.. I know this will never happen not whilst he is in charge, we make enic plenty of money especially with the new stadium.
They have no need or want to actually be successful, if they did we would nog keep shopping in the bargain basement or for the players the other big clubs pass on. They would realistically back a manager like the other top clubs do, and even Leicester seem to do also..Because we all know that without players as good as the other big clubs then you cannot compete with those clubs. All big business works the same, compete or just stagnate, ask Nokia if they wish they had competed with apple and samsung when they ruled the phone world.....when lmao we win something an Start to really compete you can have the moral high ground to tell me how wrong I was.
Bug I wouldn't be getting to excited about that day for a while if I was you.
Ic I am honest I hope I get to see that day and will honestly be as happy as a pig in shit the day you give me an ear bashing that I will deserve.