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I agree he should be kept, he's not the type of talent you give up on. If he flames out, so be it, but if he goes somewhere else and rediscovers himself we will have sold waaaay too cheaply.

I disagree he should be only a bench player, with the caveat that the team selection around him should change. If he's started alongside other passengers like Eriksen, Rose, etc. then we don't have cover for when he has a bad game. At any given time it is OK to have a couple players in a squad you're trying to get into form. The problem is when you have half the team not in form like we do now. I'd prefer Dele play and we just don't start players like Eriksen alongside him. If we're playing a front 4 then play Kane, Son, Lamela and Dele. At least everyone there will give a shit and if Dele has a bad game at least the other three can still create. The problem with yesterday was we had Eriksen in there too much basically meant Harry and Son had to do it all.
I meant dropped to the bench in the short-term more than long-term, until he gets some confidence and form back anyway. Son, Lucas, Lamela and Lo Celso should have enough between them to fill the 2-3 spots up top behind Kane.
 
TBF most of the fans at games are drunk. I'm not putting him down I'm jsut stating my long-time observations of a player. You make it sound like there's some nefarious motive behind my observations. He's had his moments but they've been just that, fleeting moments. But these moment have been interspersed between larger expanses of wastefulness and technical deficiency.

And in the main he has never been a major contributor to our play but rather a main beneficiary of our play. And for me the upsetting part is that he has not improved his game to become a more of a contributor and that will be his downfall. His will be a story of what could have been and it's being written as we type.

Appreciate your perspective though.
Well clearly we have a different perspective. But that's what the forum is all about.
 
You did spend too much time over here. Exactly correct my cutting friend.

And for my edification what is your personal classification of Cricket? I believe over there you classify it as sport, no? Just looking for a little consistency.

Also, why do English lads sing in 'American'? Check your shhhhhhhhhhhhedule and get back to me. I know you had a problem with our math so I just want to be clear on these items.
Cricket is not a sport either. Personally I find it boring to the nth degree but it's a British tradition I respect but don't watch. Exactly as Baseball is your tradition. From my reading, baseball has changed over the last 10 or so years. It, according to one pundit in the NY Times, has, like most games on the planet run by money. Ditto NFL.
I'm sorry if I sounded cutting. It's never my intention to put down a fellow Tottenham fan. And most of us do say "shedule". After all, you wouldn't refer to Bobby Fisker now, would you. Try Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue. He covers all this and it's funny too!
I believe that the American singing comes down to the origins of the music. R and R, jazz etc are all original American genres so they try for authenticity. But fail. On the other hand, last time I was there, I went to a performance of Hamlet that was an all American cast but done in rather dubious English accents. Again, all down to origins of the genre. On a lighter note, you do have excellent Cardiovascular care. Unfortunately it's very very expensive. You can come and see me free.
 

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Bazali

Roadie
Just watched the highlights again, Danny Rose on the 1st goal, what are you doing man? Playing him over Davies could very well have cost us the game. Rose has cost us many goals this year, enough is enough.
And if he hadn’t panicked and blazed over the bar when he was virtually unmarked in their area in the second half we could have scored
I know it was on his weaker right foot but he cut have passed to a couple of our players on the edge of the box as they were wide open

Sonny should have done a lot better with that shot later on too

Still fucking fuming 😤
 
Cricket is not a sport either.
Spaniel. You're chatting absolute cobblers.

Cricket, and Test Cricket in particular, is one of the most incredibly skillful, intense, terrifying and downright engrossing sports on the face of the planet. Nothing comes close. The testicular fortitude it requires for an individual to face up to a quick bowler is immense. There's no hiding behind team mates, they go out there on their own, every single time. They have less than .4 of second to react to deliveries that can go past their nostrils or clatter into the base of the stumps. Spin bowlers are like magicians. The fielding is amazing. And every player has worked on it for and been drilled as hard as any footballer.

You may not like it, but that's neither here nor there.

You're objectively wrong.
 

Joe Clash

Supporter
Spaniel Spaniel Booo! Cricket requires a mixture of athleticism, skill and courage to play well. Standing 20 yards away from a bowler who can propel a rock hard projectile weighing 5 3/4 ounces at upwards of 95mph - at your head - legally - is most definitely a sport.
 
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Absolutely agree, he just seems to get every fucking decision without question week in and out. 'The officiating and media' is so biased and if not that cunt, then it's Salah diving. He's the ultimate footballing cheating cunt & i badly want to see him do an ankle ligament. (not nice but fuck it) They say decisions balance out which is completely BS.
they must have lessons in how to create a penalty situation, very skilful. They must also be the most hated team in the country
 

Airfixx

Cherub
i have to admit alli was a possible stay for me, after reading your words, youre right he is worth keeping, but not 1st team, and just a squad player, eriksen is a mercenary, couldnt sign a contract, so we can sell him for decent cash, levy should pay him to sign contract, and then sell him, he makes loads of cash, and gets his move, win, win, its all about money with this guy, even if we gave him 10 million, his transfer fee would be 40 million +, better than losing on free.
The sane world gave up the ghost on that idea some time ago now.

Cost us £14m. I understand maintaining the clubs negotiating credibility in the selling market by not selling him for a pittance last summer(*), but now we just write it off knowing we've already had our money's worth from his original fee.

Same as Toby... Lucky enough Toby will still prove useful over the course of this season (didn't think he was that bad vs the Scouse tbh).

(*Especially not when faced with cunty clubs like RM & Man U!)
 

todd1882

'Cause I know the power of the question
From my reading, baseball has changed over the last 10 or so years. It, according to one pundit in the NY Times, has, like most games on the planet run by money. Ditto NFL.
Yes, but our WASPy ruling class go back to their roots when it comes to this. They love a bit of socialism here: profit sharing, salary caps, luxury taxes, etc etc. And let us not forget the 'combine' and the draft...reminiscent of some of Europe's very bad past.

I'm sorry if I sounded cutting....Cardiovascular care... You can come and see me free.
I said cutting because it fit grammatically but I was saying 'cutter', as in your job and not your wit or sarcasm. Though that's decent too.

And most of us do say "shedule". After all, you wouldn't refer to Bobby Fisker now, would you.
No, I wouldn't. But since it comes from the Latin schedula and the 'h' is there to make the 'c' hard I would pronounce it 'skejool' like intended. Were it to be soft they would have spelled it 'scedule'. I would have figured a man of your education would have learned this in shool somewhere. :sonpoint:

I believe that the American singing comes down to the origins of the music. R and R, jazz etc are all original American genres so they try for authenticity. But fail. On the other hand, last time I was there, I went to a performance of Hamlet that was an all American cast but done in rather dubious English accents. Again, all down to origins of the genre.
Good points all around. It's rare to find a convincing English accent from an American...and vice versa, but less so. The Aussie's, however, seem to have us both nailed on. Tricky bastards.
 
TBF most of the fans at games are drunk. I'm not putting him down I'm jsut stating my long-time observations of a player. You make it sound like there's some nefarious motive behind my observations. He's had his moments but they've been just that, fleeting moments. But these moment have been interspersed between larger expanses of wastefulness and technical deficiency.

And in the main he has never been a major contributor to our play but rather a main beneficiary of our play. And for me the upsetting part is that he has not improved his game to become a more of a contributor and that will be his downfall. His will be a story of what could have been and it's being written as we type.

Appreciate your perspective though.
It's a struggle for you Americans, isn't it, hmm? Trying to understand a sport that doesn't involve body armour, beating something with a bat or shooting defenceless animals in the wild without a hope of them ever being a danger to you. You turn up at wars years late, and claim you did all the hard work, take a perfectly serviceable language that has been honed to perfection and then bugger it up by misspelling and mispronouncing everything, and then completely fail to understand our national sport and "procede" to proceed to lecture us on its finer virtues.
You think obscene amounts of money is a substitute for class and style and frankly, I've seen more culture in a biology laboratory.

One of your more educated countrymen once said that it was better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
:)
Cricket was invented to assist Englishmen to get to sleep on a warm afternoon after some liquid refreshment, and is only taken seriously when beating Australian convicts.
 

todd1882

'Cause I know the power of the question
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It's a struggle for you Americans, isn't it, hmm? Trying to understand a sport that doesn't involve body armour, beating something with a bat or shooting defenceless animals in the wild without a hope of them ever being a danger to you. You turn up at wars years late, and claim you did all the hard work, take a perfectly serviceable language that has been honed to perfection and then bugger it up by misspelling and mispronouncing everything, and then completely fail to understand our national sport and "procede" to proceed to lecture us on its finer virtues.
You think obscene amounts of money is a substitute for class and style and frankly, I've seen more culture in a biology laboratory.

One of your more educated countrymen once said that it was better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
:)
Cricket was invented to assist Englishmen to get to sleep on a warm afternoon after some liquid refreshment, and is only taken seriously when beating Australian convicts.
Don't you have a stupor into which to drink yourself tonight? Why don't you get on with it and stop spewing your drivel. You wouldn't know a bunsen burner from a stovetop burner. And hard work or not you'd be watching the Bundesliga if it wasn't for us. Gute nacht, mein freund.

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and then completely fail to understand our national sport
Isn't it embarrassing to you that you are so bad in your sport? Literally no country in the world wants to pattern their game on your brand of football. The PL is what it is because of foreign players. That must irk you a bit brexit boy.

It would be embarrassing if other countries were better at our sports than us. Truly embarrassing! We lost in basketball and then sent the DreamTeam to hammer folks. I disagreed with the decision to send pros as I liked it a bit more competitive.
 
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Borodin55

Carpe Diem
Cricket is not a sport either. Personally I find it boring to the nth degree but it's a British tradition I respect but don't watch. Exactly as Baseball is your tradition. From my reading, baseball has changed over the last 10 or so years. It, according to one pundit in the NY Times, has, like most games on the planet run by money. Ditto NFL.
I'm sorry if I sounded cutting. It's never my intention to put down a fellow Tottenham fan. And most of us do say "shedule".
Reminded me of a very posh lady who came in the shop one day and after being served with fuel said to the cashier "I'd like a chit please". He looked up and said "Toilets are over there love". Her face was aghast. Must admit there were tears in my eyes as I took him to one side and explained.
 

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When's that gripping Amazon doco c
And hard work or not you'd be watching the Bundesliga if it wasn't for us. Gute nacht, mein freund.
Dude you turned your back on humanity and fascism for 2 years and only Japan made you do something, shameful brother. You were cowardly isolationists.
They never gave up and saved themselves in the Battle of Britain.
Saved the world from a host of douchbag hillbilly sports and gave mankind football , cricket , rugby , golf , tennis etc.
 
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