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Because it's irrelevant, nothing could redeem the atrocities that the empire has committed.
Going back you could say that about any colonisation not just the British Empire though. Spanish in Argentina etc, Portuguese in Brazil, Belgians in the Congo, further back Roman Empire pretty much everywhere. Did these cruel but admittedly more educated, cleverer people ultimately bring the lands they colonised forward, for want of a better word? Would a lot of these countries have been decades, maybe even centuries behind modern science, medicine etc, without colonisation? I guess we'll never know.
 
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Going back you could say that about any colonisation not just the British Empire though. Spanish in Argentina etc, Portuguese in Brazil, further back Roman Empire pretty much everywhere. Did these cruel but admittedly more educated, cleverer people ultimately bring the lands they colonised forward, for want of a better word? Would a lot of these countries have been decades, maybe even centuries behind modern science, medicine etc, without colonisation? I guess we'll never know.
I understand your point of view, mine is that we've been taught to value the colonizer's values and merits over the indigenous, to the point that the values of indigenous people over the world have been rather ignominiously trampled on. Also colonizers were not the sole purveyors of culture and advancement, and I would think people would have preferred to live as they did rather than being killed and enslaved. But the world is what it is and it is on us to make the most of it and make it better.
 
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Going back you could say that about any colonisation not just the British Empire though. Spanish in Argentina etc, Portuguese in Brazil, Belgians in the Congo, further back Roman Empire pretty much everywhere. Did these cruel but admittedly more educated, cleverer people ultimately bring the lands they colonised forward, for want of a better word? Would a lot of these countries have been decades, maybe even centuries behind modern science, medicine etc, without colonisation? I guess we'll never know.
don't mate - I tried this line of defence some time ago - and there are genuinely people around who think it better that Britain didn't share its education and societal advances and left the indians in the state they were found in.
Then they try judging people from 4-500 years ago by todays woke mentality.
 
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I apologise for offending so many people. Clearly, I don't have the mental capacity to understand the game. I stand corrected.
You clearly need to leave whatever building you’re in and do the decent thing

Browning 9mm semi should do the job but sort your affairs out first old chap
 
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OldBoy68

New Balls Please
The claim was

Only watched 4:10 and it was as I remembered...not running at players with the ball. That's what Dembele did , Hazard, Sterling, etc do. Those in the vid were take-ons out on the wing and most came to so little. They often ended in LOP. If that's what you wanna see then fair enough.

And I will stick with baseball. That will mean I'd understand more about two sports than you'll ever know.
C'mon. Give it a rest dude. I agree we aren't seeing it since the injuries but the salient point here is "ever". That's just not correct.
 
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todd1882

'Cause I know the power of the question
I have a friend who is a lecturer in all things Etymological
...in order categorical? I actually don't mind the schedule thing. It's...British. But I do keep it in my back pocket when corrected on certain things.

but I'm pretty much on the left, politically. Socialism is not the dirty word some Americans seem to think.
You don't say? I would have never picked that up.:pochlol:

Card carrying over here as well my friend. As in other cultures some Americans are dumb (and oh so selfish). I really do think it's changing for the better irrespective of that moron in office. We got complacent and, you know, the Russians!
 
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todd1882

'Cause I know the power of the question
Not taking sides here but why do you chaps call it "the World Series" and crown the winner "World Champion" when only N. America takes part? I'm genuinely curious.
I'm not gonna defend that but I will attempt a possible explanation. I guess when it began we were the only nation that played it. Now there are some other nations that are quite good like japan and the DR. I didn't know the Netherlands had a pro league. I don't believe it's that good but some of their old colonies (there it is again) have some major league players.

I do love to throw the 'world champ' thing out there to irritate peeps like Joe though. I do get a kick outta that.
 
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Joe Clash

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I do love to throw the 'world champ' thing out there to irritate peeps like Joe though. I do get a kick outta that.
It doesn’t irritate me - I like baseball. I think it was another poster who mentioned the ‘world’ bit. Sports event nomenclature isn’t particularly high on my list of things that annoy me.
 
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I understand your point of view, mine is that we've been taught to value the colonizer's values and merits over the indigenous, to the point that the values of indigenous people over the world have been rather ignominiously trampled on. Also colonizers were not the sole purveyors of culture and advancement, and I would think people would have preferred to live as they did rather than being killed and enslaved. But the world is what it is and it is on us to make the most of it and make it better.
I'm not saying any of what you say isn't true. Like i said who knows really? But as for feeling guilty.....you could say should the Italians feel guilty because the Romans wanted to take over half the known world 2000 years ago. Should the Norwegians feel guilty about the Vikings pillaging and raping 1100 years ago, or even the Germans, should they feel guilty about Hitler trying to take over the world during the war? Doesn't get us anywhere.
 
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Micks a vile twat who for some reason sees himself as funny, witty and likable
No he isnt, he just sees you for the massive gobshite that you are on here, and you dont like the truth.
Theres nothing vile about me at all, so it's a stupid thing to say.
Coming from someone who wished death on me, I'd say you were in no real position to declare people vile, without appearing to be a massive hypocrite.....
Again.

PS. and look, the 3 fighting cock pseuds all tripping over their clowns shoes to take a poke at me.
Good, it confirms I'm still irritating them.
 
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So does his son you mentioned!!
Ah look, another hypocrite of the highest order, weren't you up on your high horse about sammy wishing death on me, and yet here you are sucking his metaphorical cock, laughing because he said something mean to me.
And diddums hates nasty mick because he said mean things about oo's favowite footy player.

Get back in the toilet thread, you know it's where you belong.
 
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No he isnt, he just sees you for the massive gobshite that you are on here, and you dont like the truth.
Theres nothing vile about me at all, so it's a stupid thing to say.
Coming from someone who wished death on me, I'd say you were in no real position to declare people vile, without appearing to be a massive hypocrite.....
Again.
MICKS TALKING IN THE THIRD PERSON WHILE BEING SERIOUS EVERYONE!!!

LOOK! LOOK AT HIM!

:llorishuh:
 
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