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Player Mathys Tel

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Who am I to argue with Xabi Alonso and Paolo Maldini?

It’s a skill, it’s just probably an overrated one. Palhinha’s ability to win the ball back and be an absolute nuisance in the middle of the park is useful, it’s just the rest of his skill set is incredibly basic. And no the fact he’s had a handful of scrappy goals this season does not change that.

Someone like Caicedo is a very good ball winner but also very proficient otherwise.
 
Alonso did, Maldini said if he has to make one then he’s already made a mistake.

Carrick is the best 6 I’ve seen at Spurs and he went to ground less times in his entire spurs stint than Palhinha's average 90.
None of that evidence supports the claim that tackling is not a skill.

Needing a triple heart bypass is a last resort but the surgeon performing it better be pretty skilful.

Maybe you meant that very high tackling stats aren't necessarily a good thing ?
 
None of that evidence supports the claim that tackling is not a skill.

Needing a triple heart bypass is a last resort but the surgeon performing it better be pretty skilful.

Maybe you meant that very high tackling stats aren't necessarily a good thing ?
If you choose to interpret it that way, then yes. The team should be focusing on having more of the ball and less on the god awful Frank/Palhinha duels fetish.

Wanyama was a dominant DM in 2016/17 and he never made the top 10 list for either tackles nor interceptions.

Even the current makeup of the squad, as bad as the chemistry, would prefer to have the ball. The last 2 games have shown this.
 
block tackles/jockeying as part of the team’s defensive structure is essential defensive work and cuts the danger off at source.

If you have to leave your feet to dive in on an opponent, it’s a do or die action.

Ledders, Toby, rarely had to do the latter, neither did Carrick. Best 3 defensive players at spurs in the ENIC era.
You said tackling is not a skill...sounds like you actually mean slide tackling, which it still is a skill, i'm not a fan of it but some people are masters at it and Palhinha is one of them. He does it to make sure he wins the ball as he has his body going through the ball and man, if you can do it as well as him you would be doing it a lot too.
 
You said tackling is not a skill...sounds like you actually mean slide tackling, which it still is a skill, i'm not a fan of it but some people are masters at it and Palhinha is one of them. He does it to make sure he wins the ball as he has his body going through the ball and man, if you can do it as well as him you would be doing it a lot too.
And because it gives fans a hard-on it’s actually made him wildly overrated as a player. That’s why Kompany saw right through him and fired him out of a cannon.
 
You're not going to see him doing tiki-taka, but so what, he adds value to the team in other ways.

I don't know if you've noticed, but we have a fucking shit squad, barely any of them can actually play good football anyway, so players like Palhinha are massive right now as they do actually have qualities with weight to them!
 
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You're not going to see him doing tiki-taka, but so what, he adds value to the team in other ways.

I don't know if you've noticed, but we have a fucking shit squad, barely any of them can actually play good football anyway, so players like Palhinha are massive right now as they do actually qualities with weight to them!

The problem is picking Palhinha isn't current a better option than picking Bentancur and Bissouma, the guy doesn't move the ball quick enough in midfield and he isn't as press resistant than these two so where do you play him?
 
It’s a skill, it’s just probably an overrated one. Palhinha’s ability to win the ball back and be an absolute nuisance in the middle of the park is useful, it’s just the rest of his skill set is incredibly basic. And no the fact he’s had a handful of scrappy goals this season does not change that.

Someone like Caicedo is a very good ball winner but also very proficient otherwise.
He’s also had an absolute shite season according to Chelsea fans.
 
Bayern don’t need a player like him as it’s such an easy league to win. See how they get on against psg.
No serious top team needs a player like him.

Not even our direct competitors do, that’s why they’ve been having a field day against us in the middle of the park all season.

Man Utd figured out the same with Ugarte )PSG got rid of him after a year as well) despite him scoring a few and we will as well.
 
No serious top team needs a player like him.
We are a million miles away from being a top team, if we had good footballers in midfield and proper forwards who can actually impact a game then yes, Palhinha would be far down the pecking order and used only in certain games.

We are so desperate we are praising players like Tel for winning corners!

I would personally be playing Palhinha at the back now next to VDV, instead of using a league 1 player like Danso.
 
Alonso did, Maldini said if he has to make one then he’s already made a mistake.

Carrick is the best 6 I’ve seen at Spurs and he went to ground less times in his entire spurs stint than Palhinha's average 90.
Tackling involves far more than going to ground. If a player is running at you and you take the ball off him, you've tackled him and won. Ease a winger off the ball and it's a tackle.

The one dimensional thinking on here is a sight to behold.
 
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