Mauricio Pochettino

I really detest Spurs fans who act as if Poch (and Jol & Redknapp whilst we're at it) were failures.

Completely divorced from reality.

Name me one supporter who said Jol was a failure? Or who said Redknapp should have challenged for the major honours with that team? I really detest Spurs fans who make up fictional scenarios, who put an individual’s interest ( who only became involved with us in 2014) above the club (and who still endlessly defending a manager that is no longer here).

Lets focus on reality:

Only top six club not to win a trophy during his tenure despite accumulating more points in the league over that period other than City

Sacked from this club with the club 14th in the league with a team in complete free fall.

No legacy structure in place with a complete squad rebuild required last year.

Courted other clubs whilst here and talked about leaving on the eve of a cup final.

No you’re absolutely right he was undoubtedly a total success for the club.
 
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Name me one supporter who said Jol was a failure? Or who said Redknapp should have challenged for the major honours with that team? I really detest Spurs fans who make up fictional scenarios, who put an individual interest above the club ( still endlessly defending a manager that is no longer here).

Lets focus on reality:

Only top six club not to win a trophy during his tenure despite accumulating more points in the league over that period other than City

Sacked from this club with the club 14th in the league with a team in complete free fall.

No legacy structure in place with a complete squad rebuild required last year.

Courted other clubs whilst here and talked about leaving on the eve of cup final.

No you’re absolutely right he was undoubtedly a total success for the club.

But bizarrely I wonder if he thinks he was a success in his final analysis?

No doubt he fell short just when it mattered most.

It's the only real reason he left, aside from tiredness and why he has not been employed since.

It's a bit nuanced but no doubt we are where we are now because Pochettino set a foundation.
 
But bizarrely I wonder if he thinks he was a success in his final analysis?

No doubt he fell short just when it mattered most.

It's the only real reason he left, aside from tiredness and why he has not been employed since.

It's a bit nuanced but no doubt we are where we are now because Pochettino set a foundation.

Again it’s another thing that keeps being accredited to him when in reality we in this position due to Levy’s decision to overall the structure in 2004.
 

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They just always have done. I'm sure there's something nationalistic about it. I think there's another basque club that does it too but I can't remember which

Sociedad is a basque club and they used to go under that rule in the past.

But I believe Bilbao are the only club that follow it to this day. Which in modern day is commendable.
 

CSWY

Supporter
Sociedad is a basque club and they used to go under that rule in the past.

But I believe Bilbao are the only club that follow it to this day. Which in modern day is commendable.
Commendable? It’s a bit weird and discriminatory. If the club was more open it would probably bring more success, which would be better for the club, the city and the local economy.
 
Commendable? It’s a bit weird and discriminatory. If the club was more open it would probably bring more success, which would be better for the club, the city and the local economy.
Athletic is a fantastic football club, long story but I have friends over there and usually get over for a game or two per season.

Sure, they could throw away their traditions and club identity but the fans don't want that. They have voted before on scrapping the basque heritage rule and each time the vast majority of fans have voted for the rule to remain.

There is nothing ' weird or discrimnationary' about valuing your region and identity. One of their forwards, Williams, is idolised by the fans, his parents are from Africa but he's a basque, his skin colour is irrelevant, how refreshing!

Athletic fans are passionate about their club and on the whole a friendly and welcoming bunch. I like and understand what the club means to them .
 
Name me one supporter who said Jol was a failure? Or who said Redknapp should have challenged for the major honours with that team? I really detest Spurs fans who make up fictional scenarios, who put an individual’s interest ( who only became involved with us in 2014) above the club (and who still endlessly defending a manager that is no longer here).

Lets focus on reality:

Only top six club not to win a trophy during his tenure despite accumulating more points in the league over that period other than City

Sacked from this club with the club 14th in the league with a team in complete free fall.

No legacy structure in place with a complete squad rebuild required last year.

Courted other clubs whilst here and talked about leaving on the eve of a cup final.

No you’re absolutely right he was undoubtedly a total success for the club.
I think redknapp should have challenged for major honours with that team
 

eanN17

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I actually thought that team could have challenged for the title . I thought the football redknapp had us playing was some of the best I’d seen at the lane but I believe it should have come much closer to first than fourth
The team wasn't mentally strong enough imo. That Balotelli stamp in the head vs City could have changed things had we won that game.

Agree that the football was brilliant though.
 

CSWY

Supporter
Athletic is a fantastic football club, long story but I have friends over there and usually get over for a game or two per season.

Sure, they could throw away their traditions and club identity but the fans don't want that. They have voted before on scrapping the basque heritage rule and each time the vast majority of fans have voted for the rule to remain.

There is nothing ' weird or discrimnationary' about valuing your region and identity. One of their forwards, Williams, is idolised by the fans, his parents are from Africa but he's a basque, his skin colour is irrelevant, how refreshing!

Athletic fans are passionate about their club and on the whole a friendly and welcoming bunch. I like and understand what the club means to them .
How is Basque heritage defined for them? Barca - who I don’t like BTW - have retained a very strong Catalan identity but are totally open to players and staff from all over the world, arguably to the success of the club, city and region (economic knock on effects). I just think that, if you’re proud of your region, open it up and share with the world.
 

Stopspot

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How is Basque heritage defined for them? Barca - who I don’t like BTW - have retained a very strong Catalan identity but are totally open to players and staff from all over the world, arguably to the success of the club, city and region (economic knock on effects). I just think that, if you’re proud of your region, open it up and share with the world.
Born or raised in the Basque country more or less or with parents/grandparents from there. For example they have one player that is Bosnian, but he was born to immigrant parents in San Sebastian. Williams is also born in Bilbao but to refugee parents as another example.

Fernando Llorente for example qualified through his parents or grandparents (I cannot remember which) being from Navarre.

So yeah, they have a slimmer window for recruiting. But they also invest way more into their youth setup than most other clubs. And they tend to sell for good money.

I'm not going to dive too much into the Spain vs Basque Country conflict. But the Basque people are very proud of their cultural identity and value it over things like "global football".

And even with such a insular culture they still stay competitive and are a regular European fixture.
 

theromanianjackass

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Name me one supporter who said Jol was a failure? Or who said Redknapp should have challenged for the major honours with that team? I really detest Spurs fans who make up fictional scenarios, who put an individual’s interest ( who only became involved with us in 2014) above the club (and who still endlessly defending a manager that is no longer here).

Lets focus on reality:

Only top six club not to win a trophy during his tenure despite accumulating more points in the league over that period other than City

Sacked from this club with the club 14th in the league with a team in complete free fall.

No legacy structure in place with a complete squad rebuild required last year.

Courted other clubs whilst here and talked about leaving on the eve of a cup final.

No you’re absolutely right he was undoubtedly a total success for the club.
No one said he was faultless you dipshit, but to deny everything he’s done for the club sounds like you’ve got a personal thing going on.
Squad rebuild? Yeah no wonder it needed rebuilding after those years of minimal investment. You probably think that muh Njie or Janssen are investments, Poch bad coach and has no idea who to buy. Embarrassing.
 
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