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We did it,and for that i'm relieved.
But we need to grow up.Maybe ,as discussed previously, an old war horse around the squad is the answer.Maybe after qualifying for the CL for the 3rd time on the spin confidence will come naturally. I am not sure of the solutions, but it does need to addressed..


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SausageVince SausageVince Did Leicester have a winning mentality before they won the league? Where is it now? And Chelsea? Where was their winning mentality last night or against us even?

Isn't mental strength something that is only gained through experience and learning from your mistakes? We still have a very young and inexperienced team and manager for that fact, but that is exactly what has made being a Spurs fan so great since Poch arrived. We have 7 players who could be off to the World Cup for the first time, FIVE of them English.

Are you really that upset that they haven't won anything yet, or that we only 'limped over the line' this season? We have just qualified for the CL for the 3rd time running...last season we were unbeaten at home winning 3 points more than City have done this...this season we have one of the best away records and the season before that apart from a dodgy start and finish we were the best team in the league. That doesn't say a lack of a winning mentality to me.

Also you are questioning the teams 'mental fortitude' and whether Poch is the right man to give us that in the future based of what? A few big games where we threw away winning positions? And in one of those games we actually did show some great mental fortitude! Anyway, surely all these experiences will just make us come back stronger and more determined next time.
 
Henry Hotspur said:
Some interesting responses here to a timely thread (because we ‘the fans’ have no agency, our anxiety bubbles over and leads to frets and panics and to chat like this - it can’t wait for the end of the season. We have to address it now even though we know it will have no effect on the players whatsoever). Call it letting off steam - it needs to happen.

There are two schools of thought on our perceived ‘weaknesses’: 1)it’s endemic; part of the fabric of the club - “lads, it’s Tottenham” Ferguson or “we are playing the Drury Lane Tap dancers today” Shankly. Our ‘Spursey-ness’ just won’t allow success no matter how many changes of personnel we go through. I know some think like this and I see why but have to disagree.

So, focussing on Poch’s reign.

I do think we lack a leader or figurehead. I take the point that’s it’s not “1985” but it needn’t take the form of outright aggression, perhaps a player or two who knows how to win and how to manage a tight situation.

Yes, we have punched above our weight and are probably (just) ahead of the Levy/Poch ‘project/timescale’ but I think it’s acceptable for us fans to show (mildly) our displeasure at failing to get over the line/win important games/close out from winning positions. We’ve demonstrated a worrying trend toward this over the last 3 seasons. We’ve had dips in form this year in the league amongst some superb individual results and satisfying unbeaten runs and I thank the team and Poch for that .

In 2017/18 though, with Citeh running away with the league, it’s been the cup defeats that have really grated:

West Ham (LC) 2-0 up
Juve (CL) 1-0 up
Man Ure (FA) 1-0 up

I haven’t like Poch’s attitude to the domestic cups. I think it breeds complacency. Say what you like about Maureen but he knows that (any) silverware unites a club/fans and galvanises a squad. It also makes that team more attractive to prospective recruits.

I know most football fans could probably swear blind that they ‘just knew’ their team would blow it in the final straight, when most of the hard work had been done. But with our club we appear to be developing a worrying habit.

I’m not in full panic mode yet but I’m really not confident going into the last week of our season. And that is based on the evidence before my eyes...
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I think you must be proud of your game and your mentality. Juventus suffered a lot against you (clearly I cannot judge your matches with West Han and MU).

But I will point out something that surprised me.

Allegri is very criticized by a part of the fans (40% I think) for the game of the team. But he has a great deal: he can read the games and change in the race.

Like a chess game.

At 60 'in Wembley has fielded two full backs (left Asamoah and right Lichtsteiner ) and has removed a central defender ( Benatia)and a midfielder Matuidi.
The Spurs until then were playing better and Son had devastated the old Barzagli.
I thought "damn, Allegri is crazy".

Instead Lichtsteiner has scored on Higuain's goal (assists Khedira) and Alex Sandro ( carried forward because behind it there was Asamoah in cover) it has been enlarged allowing the Dybala cut.
In that case I was impressed by the immobility of Pochettino: like a statue of salt it was petrified and then in a stubborn way it didn’t counteract.

It is as if he had launched the message: I do so and I like it. Perhaps it must improve in this: do not be afraid to change. Surprise, do something and then change. Denying your own ideas to win a dirty game is not a fault, it's resilient.
 
Mick Cooper said:
That's adult talk where you come from is it?
Spineless, defeatest, wingeing maybe. Pandering to the "Melt" fraternity, for sure.

Dress it how you like Vince, it's talking shite for certain.

Tinfoil hat country
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It is a pity you did not address sausage vince's original post instead of resorting to childish banter without substance but I suppose we cannot expect much more from young, immature teenagers these days.
Spurs have a serious problem going forward into 2019 We have a weak, reject Southampton manager in Poch who is turning Spurs into a boring attacking side with so much ball possession all wasted by continual side and backward passing
We have Sanchez, Wanyama, Dier, Rose,Aldewereld and Llorente all a waste of space in the Spurs side
We have Lloris and Vertongen who are starting to make more goalkeeping and passing errors each week
We have an arrogant kid in Ali who will soon be wiped out by referees and not too soon
We have a superstar in Eriksen who keeps the team and Kane scoring but for how long will he put up with the negative ball play shown against Newcastle, West Brom and Watford
Poch caused our losses in the cups and the disgraceful loss to Juventus by poor team selection and formation errors. Do we need a Manager so complacent and his sloth like approach to non performance from individual players. We should not be so excited about CL qualification but look carefully at why we failed elsewhere.
I am sure that Levy (for whom I have the greatest respect) is having a long think about Poch and makes a positive change
 
gotot said:
It is a pity you did not address sausage vince's original post instead of resorting to childish banter without substance but I suppose we cannot expect much more from young, immature teenagers these days.
Spurs have a serious problem going forward into 2019 We have a weak, reject Southampton manager in Poch who is turning Spurs into a boring attacking side with so much ball possession all wasted by continual side and backward passing
We have Sanchez, Wanyama, Dier, Rose,Aldewereld and Llorente all a waste of space in the Spurs side
We have Lloris and Vertongen who are starting to make more goalkeeping and passing errors each week
We have an arrogant kid in Ali who will soon be wiped out by referees and not too soon
We have a superstar in Eriksen who keeps the team and Kane scoring but for how long will he put up with the negative ball play shown against Newcastle, West Brom and Watford
Poch caused our losses in the cups and the disgraceful loss to Juventus by poor team selection and formation errors. Do we need a Manager so complacent and his sloth like approach to non performance from individual players. We should not be so excited about CL qualification but look carefully at why we failed elsewhere.
I am sure that Levy (for whom I have the greatest respect) is having a long think about Poch and makes a positive change
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gotot said:
It is a pity you did not address sausage vince's original post instead of resorting to childish banter without substance but I suppose we cannot expect much more from young, immature teenagers these days.
Spurs have a serious problem going forward into 2019 We have a weak, reject Southampton manager in Poch who is turning Spurs into a boring attacking side with so much ball possession all wasted by continual side and backward passing
We have Sanchez, Wanyama, Dier, Rose,Aldewereld and Llorente all a waste of space in the Spurs side
We have Lloris and Vertongen who are starting to make more goalkeeping and passing errors each week
We have an arrogant kid in Ali who will soon be wiped out by referees and not too soon
We have a superstar in Eriksen who keeps the team and Kane scoring but for how long will he put up with the negative ball play shown against Newcastle, West Brom and Watford
Poch caused our losses in the cups and the disgraceful loss to Juventus by poor team selection and formation errors. Do we need a Manager so complacent and his sloth like approach to non performance from individual players. We should not be so excited about CL qualification but look carefully at why we failed elsewhere.
I am sure that Levy (for whom I have the greatest respect) is having a long think about Poch and makes a positive change
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I hate it when you old feckers pick on us just because we're young.

Just as a matter of interest mate - you really sound like a top bloke with your finger firmly on the pulse of why Spurs are such a bunch of losers. I'm sure you must be a real inspiration to everyone who knows you.

I think I know where you live though.

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Mick Cooper said:
I hate it when you old feckers pick on us just because we're young.

Just as a matter of interest mate - you really sound like a top bloke with your finger firmly on the pulse of why Spurs are such a bunch of losers. I'm sure you must be a real inspiration to everyone who knows you.

I think I know where you live though.

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Amazing that people still indulge this vile troll.
 
gotot said:
It is a pity you did not address sausage vince's original post instead of resorting to childish banter without substance but I suppose we cannot expect much more from young, immature teenagers these days.
Spurs have a serious problem going forward into 2019 We have a weak, reject Southampton manager in Poch who is turning Spurs into a boring attacking side with so much ball possession all wasted by continual side and backward passing
We have Sanchez, Wanyama, Dier, Rose,Aldewereld and Llorente all a waste of space in the Spurs side
We have Lloris and Vertongen who are starting to make more goalkeeping and passing errors each week
We have an arrogant kid in Ali who will soon be wiped out by referees and not too soon
We have a superstar in Eriksen who keeps the team and Kane scoring but for how long will he put up with the negative ball play shown against Newcastle, West Brom and Watford
Poch caused our losses in the cups and the disgraceful loss to Juventus by poor team selection and formation errors. Do we need a Manager so complacent and his sloth like approach to non performance from individual players. We should not be so excited about CL qualification but look carefully at why we failed elsewhere.
I am sure that Levy (for whom I have the greatest respect) is having a long think about Poch and makes a positive change
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Oh DOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck off back to whatever Gooner/Chav hole you crawled out from under.
Bitter fuck!
 
gotot said:
It is a pity you did not address sausage vince's original post instead of resorting to childish banter without substance but I suppose we cannot expect much more from young, immature teenagers these days.
Spurs have a serious problem going forward into 2019 We have a weak, reject Southampton manager in Poch who is turning Spurs into a boring attacking side with so much ball possession all wasted by continual side and backward passing
We have Sanchez, Wanyama, Dier, Rose,Aldewereld and Llorente all a waste of space in the Spurs side
We have Lloris and Vertongen who are starting to make more goalkeeping and passing errors each week
We have an arrogant kid in Ali who will soon be wiped out by referees and not too soon
We have a superstar in Eriksen who keeps the team and Kane scoring but for how long will he put up with the negative ball play shown against Newcastle, West Brom and Watford
Poch caused our losses in the cups and the disgraceful loss to Juventus by poor team selection and formation errors. Do we need a Manager so complacent and his sloth like approach to non performance from individual players. We should not be so excited about CL qualification but look carefully at why we failed elsewhere.
I am sure that Levy (for whom I have the greatest respect) is having a long think about Poch and makes a positive change
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You're right, the club from top to bottom and its supporters are a bunch of tossers.
A bunch of tossers with: CL for the third season in a row, 60000 state of the art stadium, world class training facility. A team when it plays, can match pretty much any other.
Sure we need re-inforcements, but who doesn't.
I think you need to reconsider the "we" in your original post and crawl back under your stone.
 
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