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He got through the bulk of the game to be fair. The mad ting was not subbing him on 75 minsMoronic management and actually really dangerous to the careers of these players. I wouldn't want to hang around if I thought a coach was endangering my future as a player.
Yeah, I get it. The alternatives are poor. The situation is dire. But you can't risk the health of players and rush them back to win a few points. Ultimately we haven't even done that, we've lost anyway and injured them some more.
Speaks to how desperate Ange is really.
I do think that the ball has to land on Ange and Micky here. Managers seem to have the authority to overrule team doctors/medical teams.
Like when Hugo and Poch overruled the doctor to let Hugo play on despite having a concussion as it turned out (I think that was during Poch, possibly Sherwood if it was before him). And Mourinho had multiple bust ups with the doctors at Chelsea in regards to players being ready or not to play.
He got through the bulk of the game to be fair. The mad ting was not subbing him on 75 mins
Basketball (or at least the NBA) also seems to have a league wide medical system for the more serious stuff.In football , medics employed/ paid by the club can only advise a manager and the player involved. If they choose to ignore that advice ; that’s their prerogative.
In sports like Boxing , F1 etc ( and latterly Rugby Union and Football, regarding head injuries) ; what the doctor says goes .
It doesn’t (yet ) apply to non-head injuries in football .
Players are often desperate to get back on the pitch; and their managers are equally desperate to select them .
PS : The medic who won her case against CFC (quite rightly) did so because Mourinho didn’t make an attempt to listen to her arguments or consult the player involved. She was giving him advice which he never even bothered considering. Nor did he confer with the player.
Moronic management and actually really dangerous to the careers of these players. I wouldn't want to hang around if I thought a coach was endangering my future as a player.
Yeah, I get it. The alternatives are poor. The situation is dire. But you can't risk the health of players and rush them back to win a few points. Ultimately we haven't even done that, we've lost anyway and injured them some more.
Speaks to how desperate Ange is really.
In football , medics employed/ paid by the club can only advise a manager and the player involved. If they choose to ignore that advice ; that’s their prerogative.
In sports like Boxing , F1 etc ( and latterly Rugby Union and Football, regarding head injuries) ; what the doctor says goes .
It doesn’t (yet ) apply to non-head injuries in football .
Players are often desperate to get back on the pitch; and their managers are equally desperate to select them .
PS : The medic who won her case against CFC (quite rightly) did so because Mourinho didn’t make an attempt to listen to her arguments or consult the player involved. She was giving him advice which he never even bothered considering. Nor did he confer with the player.
Aye ; it’s a man’s game, as Bill Shankly once wisely observed..
( The above was meant as a joke
btw ) .
He and Romero were cleared by the medical team to play. Romero's injury isn't the same one.Fucking genius throwing both him and Romero right in again. Fucking GENIUS.
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How does any Premier League club, let alone one which pretends to be a big one, end up in a situation where we have one solitary centre back?
I don't know if it's Ange or if the medical team have cleared him to play or what but someone's fucked up seriously here
do you think "ok guys go to midfield and win a race again" tactics contributed?
This is the famous clip pre Tottenham for all those blaming the Angeball highline
VdV doesn't care, when he has to he will use that incredible speed that he has
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/8Ka3L9xZVqY?si=Nser6wmWxEZlZ6hL
Probably not helped by fans like you saying that if he loses this game then he should be sacked. Was it a desperate decision rushing both back? Yes. Was it influenced by pressure? Yes. Take some responsibilityMoronic management and actually really dangerous to the careers of these players. I wouldn't want to hang around if I thought a coach was endangering my future as a player.
Yeah, I get it. The alternatives are poor. The situation is dire. But you can't risk the health of players and rush them back to win a few points. Ultimately we haven't even done that, we've lost anyway and injured them some more.
Speaks to how desperate Ange is really.
Oh wow it's fans fault because we said he had to win games. This just gets more pathetic by the hour.Probably not helped by fans like you saying that if he loses this game then he should be sacked. Was it a desperate decision rushing both back? Yes. Was it influenced by pressure? Yes. Take some responsibility
yeah that fella just winds me up. Honestly he is just on here every day blaming every single thing on Ange.Oh wow it's fans fault because we said he had to win games. This just gets more pathetic by the hour.
Genuinely worried about the duty of care here for players in this silly system.
Probably not helped by fans like you saying that if he loses this game then he should be sacked. Was it a desperate decision rushing both back? Yes. Was it influenced by pressure? Yes. Take some responsibility
Getting through the game doesn't mean it was ever a wise choice. The whole time he was on the pitch he was risking injury, very clear he had not fully recovered now or been given enough rest time in general.
This isn't a Spurs specific issue tbf - I find it a worrying trend across the sport due to the amount of games and pressure/money involved. Bellingham seems to spend half his time being rushed back and wrapped up. Players will almost always be brave and want to get on the pitch but clubs need to take more responsibility for protecting their long term health.