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Think there's a lot of blurred lines with all this.
In Spain, release clauses are legally required. Every player in Spain has one.
Paying it in full is the trigger that nothing can stop it now. See Neymar. Neymar was even more interesting as technically he had to pay the fee apparently. Obviously a filthy rich oil states managed to squeeze a few euros in to his account.
It's not the only way 2 clubs can work together to transfer a player though. It's just a way for a player to leave and the seller having to accept it.

If the club is amicable they're more than able to accept less and/or payment terms. It's not a fixed fee/term to sell, just a clause they have to have in the contract to give the player some rights.

It seems that, unlike in Spain, UK clubs and players are starting to elect to add release clauses. As these are entirely optional there aren't any minimum requirements and all parties entering into it do so by choice and decide the terms.


In summary.....none of you know the terms so STFU.
 
Herclueless said:
Offering £60m outright, which is required to trigger a release clause, goes totally against our usual MO of paying in installments though.
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The point here is that we can quite easily say that we put £60M out there as an opening bid to see what the counter was.

If we maintain the line that the intent was to start the bidding, in order to arrive at a sum that is then paid in installments, then were REALLY surprised ourselves that it triggered a release clause, who is there to say different?

Whilst I do think it's quite likely that we knew the release sum, we can maintain that stance that it was just coincidence, as I think it is highly unlikely that anyone is going to fess up, unless the agent suddenly turns into Jerry McGuire.

Quite simply, Forest have fucked up royally. MGW's agent has done his job and protected his Client's position by preventing a stupidly high clause preventing his player from being priced out of a move.

Basically, Forest have been schooled by MGW's agent.
 
r-u-s-x said:
Dont you offer a fee and then work out payments after?
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Only in a normal transfer negotiation, if your activating a release clause you pay the lot in one, anything else is just a standard transfer.

The Porro fee was more than his release clause, to get Sporting to agree to staggered payments, because staggered payments couldn't be used to satisfy the release clause.
 
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I still don't get how a medical can be arranged without the "selling" club not having any prior knowledge?
Which as I understand it Forest did! If so, what's the problem?
 
Blanchflower said:
They are normally a one off payment, unless the contract says otherwise.

Hence you see lots of fees agreed in excess of clauses, but with staggered payments - pretty sure Porro happened that way.
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We're not talking about buyout clauses in this case but standard transfers. Which i think are normally multiple payments.

Buyout clauses tend to be one-off but in England not always the case.
 
Herclueless said:
Only in a normal transfer negotiation, if your activating a release clause you pay the lot in one, anything else is just a standard transfer.

The Porro fee was more than his release clause, to get Sporting to agree to staggered payments, because staggered payments couldn't be used to satisfy the release clause.
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We were talking about a standard bid as the buyout was meant to be a secret.
 
Nobody3 said:
I still don't get how a medical can be arranged without the "selling" club not having any prior knowledge?
Which as I understand it Forest did! If so, what's the problem?
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Because Forest are chatting shit.

It's obvious there was some sort of contact and negotiation between the clubs, we can't just tell MGW to come and have a medical without Forest knowing lol
 
Shadydan said:
Because Forest are chatting shit.

It's obvious there was some sort of contact and negotiation between the clubs, we can't just tell MGW to come and have a medical without Forest knowing lol
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Shadydan said:
Because Forest are chatting shit.

It's obvious there was some sort of contact and negotiation between the clubs, we can't just tell MGW to come and have a medical without Forest knowing lol
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👍 I think I made that point, so you could have just started and ended your reply with the first line!!
Shadydan said:
Because Forest are chatting shit.

It's obvious there was some sort of contact and negotiation between the clubs, we can't just tell MGW to come and have a medical without Forest knowing lol
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If this goes through I hope the behind the scenes video has 2-3 mins of him just trying to kill time at the hotel.

I want to see him flicking through 4 channels in his room’s TV that are all just SpursPlay but somehow still require the subscription. I want to see him walking around in the distance, calling his agent going “…nothing? Ok, talk to you in a bit.” I want to see him put in the WiFi password, ‘ELWinners2025!’,have it not work even when he types it slowly, call the front desk, and then find out he only has full bars standing next to the toilet door.
 
Nobody3 said:
I still don't get how a medical can be arranged without the "selling" club not having any prior knowledge?
Which as I understand it Forest did! If so, what's the problem?
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That made no sense, i think the shitstorm from the fans made Kebab Marinakis look for an excuse to make for pissing them off.

The end of the day every fucking agent lets every team interested in their players of there is a release clause.

Everyone knows this and i don't see the need for it to be "confidential". I mean how the fuck are a buying club supposed to pitch a deal?

The authorities need to look at this, and decide how to proceed with this bullshit moving forward.
 
Nobody3 said:
I still don't get how a medical can be arranged without the "selling" club not having any prior knowledge?
Which as I understand it Forest did! If so, what's the problem?
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My take is that the terms of the release gave MGW permission to speak to the offering club. Obviously Tottenham doesn't organise a medical without speaking to Forest and getting at least confirmation of the terms. The whole no permission narrative makes no sense if thought about logically (clearly Tottenham thought they had permission or they wouldn't arrange a medical which involves dozens of people).

Fatty lost his marbles when he found out.

The move will happen, Forest just need to save a bit of face.
 
ThePreacher said:
That made no sense, i think the shitstorm from the fans made Kebab Marinakis look for an excuse to make for pissing them off.

The end of the day every fucking agent lets every team interested in their players of there is a release clause.

Everyone knows this and i don't see the need for it to be "confidential". I mean how the fuck are a buying club supposed to pitch a deal?

The authorities need to look at this, and decide how to proceed with this bullshit moving forward.
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Agree!
 
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