Newcastle Being Sold

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To be honest, if ADOLF HITLER had've survived... and made a few bob out of WWII ... And set up a successful multi national (anti-Zionist, obviously!) Company, that now looked to buy a football club and 'guarantee' its' success... there WOULD be a few takers....

...and no doubt the fans of that club would be outside their ground right now, waving to the SSN cameras with their little Hitler moustaches, waving Swastika flags in "honour" of the new regime that was gonna bring buy them success!

Football fans "loyalty" knows no bounds, and has no morals!

Saudi state is gonna buy/guarantee Newcastle a trophy.... Good for them. And good luck with Newcastle fans sleeping at night... Which I think they will... Cos I don't think they'll give a shit WHERE the money comes from.... As long as it guarantees trophies.
 

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PARTY: POOPED.
Today's news churn.....

- EPL collective ownership: "Why haven't people been fired over this?"



Also in vaguely related news....

- FIFA pushing for another middle-eastern WC in 2030..... Israel/UAE/Palestine. :mourfacepalm:
 

Guido

"Legacy Fan"
Well, it turns out having your frontman/woman with only a 10% shareholding and zero knowledge of football might be a route to some issues already being described by insiders as a "shambles"......

 
Well, it turns out having your frontman/woman with only a 10% shareholding and zero knowledge of football might be a route to some issues already being described by insiders as a "shambles"......


There was quite a good Q & A on The Athletic website with their Newcastle writer and he was saying there’s three factions all wanting different things with different blouse of voice so it’s a bit of a mess. Quite a good read. This seems to back that up. It’s all a bit of a mess hence why Bruce is still there.
 

Guido

"Legacy Fan"
There was quite a good Q & A on The Athletic website with their Newcastle writer and he was saying there’s three factions all wanting different things with different blouse of voice so it’s a bit of a mess. Quite a good read. This seems to back that up. It’s all a bit of a mess hence why Bruce is still there.
What's astounding is that they've had literally years to plan this!!

I've always maintained that City are where they are not only because of the wealth and the investment of their owners but because largely it was down to an incredibly well thought out and executed plan. This article highlights this and reminded me of what happened when they first bought the Club and the guy initially put in place to front the Club, Sulaiman al-Fahim. He was an absolute joker and turned up after getting the boot went on to purchase Portsoumth with what it turned out to be £5m he stole from his wife and he went to prison (how did he escape keeping his hands?), I had completely forgotten about him until reading this.

What I also found interesting was the general comparisons made between the two ruling states and their attitudes.
 

Guido

"Legacy Fan"
Copy/Paste please, good sir????

What now for Newcastle after takeover? The problems new owners face in a very different football world​

Newcastle’s new owners have plenty of work to do to deliver what supporters desire​

Miguel Delaney
Chief Football Writer

Amanda Staveley and the rest of Newcastle United’s new executive might have impressed supporters with meetings in the first week of the Saudi Arabian ownership, but that hasn’t really been the case with figures within the game.

Many have been left perplexed by the new regime’s initial dealings. That has been most evident in the highest profile exercise so far, which is the search for a new manager. The hierarchy want Steve Bruce out, largely because they know the fanbase want Bruce out. The entire takeover has after all been built on wide-scale pandering to supporters, with Staveley repeatedly delivering the same spiel about love for the club that she was prepared to give Liverpool when she was part of a consortium that considered buying the Merseyside club.


The consortium have so far known exactly what buttons to press, but that makes the reluctance to press the button on Bruce all the more surprising.


Staveley and the team around her were advised to just get rid of the manager immediately and worry about a replacement later, since that is clearly their will. Instead, Bruce will remain in his job for now casting a shadow over a Sunday match against Tottenham Hotspur that is supposed to be a welcoming party.

A mere glance at social media shows supporters talking about a celebration potentially being spoiled.

Part of the hesitation is about Bruce’s replacement. The hierarchy are currently undecided about what to do next, despite having so long to think about it. There is currently no interest in Frank Lampard. There have been indirect approaches to some big names, but none have given positive responses. Antonio Conte, as an example, doesn’t see Newcastle as anywhere near close enough to competing to be attractive. Eddie Howe may end up representing the most viable option.

Another complication is admittedly that the structure around the manager still has to be decided. In short, there isn’t much football intelligence at this Newcastle, for now at least. Agents say that, in the first week, they were mostly dealing with Staveley’s husband, Mehrdad Ghodoussi. He was regularly seen kicking a ball around the training ground.

And there remained Bruce, “the ghost at the feast”, as some sources have quipped. Other sources more sympathetic to the manager have described the situation as “amateurish” and “a shambles”.

Some of that may be fairly interpreted as inevitable bitterness but Bruce being in place on Sunday would still be such a needless misstep at a time when the hierarchy can do almost no wrong in the eyes of supporters. A “shambles” is certainly not the image that the Saudi Arabian owners will have wanted to give off.

On that, there are bigger questions. While so much of the criticism of this takeover rightfully centred on the political use of a club, it is at least possible they have moved too late.


This is a very different football world to 2008, and the time of the Manchester City takeover. Back then, the term “sportswashing” didn’t exist and there was no war in Yemen. There was just a greater naivety about it all. By the time human rights groups had succeeded in making “sportswashing” a part of the conversation, the modern iterations of City and Paris Saint-Germain, owned by the Abu Dhabi and Qatar ruling families respectively, had already been normalised.

That may not be so easy for Newcastle’s new owners. Observers in England are instead putting the team in the context of Saudi Arabia’s many human rights problems.

Figures within football are openly talking about the state’s history of beheading as a capital punishment, and making dark jokes about players who go to Newcastle and underperform. It feels unlikely that any success will ever escape association with human rights questions, which is something that City and PSG have largely avoided. You don’t exactly get Abu Dhabi’s oppression of dissidents discussed on Match of the Day or Super Sunday, even though part of the purchase is precisely about using football to shift criticism. Micah Richards isn’t going into that.

<p>Jubilant Newcastle fans celebrate the club’s Saudi takeover outside the stadium</p>

Jubilant Newcastle fans celebrate the club’s Saudi takeover outside the stadium
(PA Wire)
By contrast, even Alan Shearer has had to acknowledge “human rights issues” around this takeover, while talking about a “special day” for the supporters. Those issues were similarly brought up in the Premier League shareholders’ meeting on Tuesday, which excluded Newcastle to allow for “open discussion”.

Some do have misgivings about the international image of the competition if they are being seen to do business with Saudi Arabia. There were exasperated questions about the process that sanctioned the takeover and even calls for moves against Richard Masters and Gary Hoffman at the top of the Premier League.

Others would not be so bold, as they are highly conscious of the questionable ways so many other clubs make money, from gambling sponsorships to their own deals with much-criticised states. Manchester United’s Richard Arnold has spoken of their “long-standing relationship with Saudi Arabia” and companies from the kingdom, which has been in place for over a decade.

While concerns about human rights should be paramount, and some figures who spoke on Tuesday are genuine in citing them, others are being accused of using it for their own self-interest. “That’s the problem with the modern game,” one source with knowledge of the meeting said. “Self-interest is rife. Most seemed more concerned with greater competition.”

A series of sources say it was “mid-table clubs” who led opposition to the takeover in the meeting, and not “big six” clubs like Manchester United or Tottenham Hotspur. This was one striking element of the fallout from the meeting. Many were said to be opposed to the takeover but almost no one would put their name to it.

“It’s almost like they don’t want the badge of having criticised the new owners,” a critical figure from one Premier League club said. It’s all the more curious because some of the complaints were also entirely legitimate if separate to human rights issues.

One email drafted with the consent of 12 clubs expressed concern about cost controls, and there was subsequent discussion about the need for the Premier League to enforce restrictions. There is justifiable worry about how this could further drive up player salaries. “It’s not so much where the money is coming from,” one source said. “It’s about where it’s going.”
 
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