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Manager Nuno Espírito Santo

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his career is amazing. Always falling upwards. Being Mendes pal really compensates.

he started his career at rio ave, a team that is equivalent to the lets say Aston Villa in Portugal. Finished mid table and took them to two cup finals where he lost.

after this went to Valencia. Yeah. From a mid table Portuguese team after doing just fine went to arguable the 3/4 biggest team in Spain. Did well first season but was a disaster in the second one. And was fired shortly

then went to Porto. Another case of falling upwards. Was a disaster. A meme manager. Playing cautious football when he had some great attacking players like Andre Silva, diogo jota, corona, brahimi etc didn’t win a pot to piss in and was fired

then went to wolves. Very surprisingly at first because they are in tier 2 but after seeing the players they bought in all became clear. This cunt frozen out plays like boly and Ruben neves at Porto and took them for sale prices to Wolves. This shit I can’t forgive. It was done on purpose by him and his mate. Did very well there first while playing always cautious football. Was basically sent away and fell in a much bigger club again. This guy

It’s the Porto bit that scares me. Jose had Kane, Son, Bale, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Regulion, Dele, Lamela, Bergwijn and Lucas and somehow played us sitting in our own box a lot of the time.

We still have some really good attacking players but if we ain’t going to use them what’s the point. He doesn’t sound like a pragmatist, a pragmatist is like Redknapp he changes with the players he has, Nuno sound like an out and out dinosaur from that description. I can only reference his Wolves football and that was negative.
 
It’s the Porto bit that scares me. Jose had Kane, Son, Bale, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Regulion, Dele, Lamela, Bergwijn and Lucas and somehow played us sitting in our own box a lot of the time.

We still have some really good attacking players but if we ain’t going to use them what’s the point. He doesn’t sound like a pragmatist, a pragmatist is like Redknapp he changes with the players he has, Nuno sound like an out and out dinosaur from that description. I can only reference his Wolves football and that was negative.
The advantage I see in Nuno to Jose is that Nuno is not so proud to not try at least change things. He will change players and systems when things don’t work out.
 
My point is he did miracles with them. Promoted and 2 x top 7 finishes and a Europa cup quarter final. Wolves shouldn’t be expecting this mate sorry.

Perhaps but City or Chelsea shouldn’t expect much either but money changes everything. From my understanding they got hundreds of millions spent because of Chinese owners so it’s not simply a case of little old Wolves.

He may have done ok but there is only so long you can take watching negative football.
 
It’s the Porto bit that scares me. Jose had Kane, Son, Bale, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Regulion, Dele, Lamela, Bergwijn and Lucas and somehow played us sitting in our own box a lot of the time.

We still have some really good attacking players but if we ain’t going to use them what’s the point. He doesn’t sound like a pragmatist, a pragmatist is like Redknapp he changes with the players he has, Nuno sound like an out and out dinosaur from that description. I can only reference his Wolves football and that was negative.
Jose only survived for as long as he did because there were no fans in the stands. If Nuno tries to sit back with the attacking talent on the roster he's going to get get booed out of the stadium. At that point, Levy's natural inclination is to fire him even though that's Paratici's job now, so I'm sure that will be a blast.

It's one of those where he's either fired before the end of this season or he's here for 3-5 years. Unlike Mourinho, where it was entirely predictable how it was going to end, this isn't as obvious but I'm not optimistic.
 
He's a solid coach that plays defensive football and brings Mendes' influence back into the club.

I don't think that is a successful combination for Tottenham. But we are about to find out.
 
Basically a combination of what we were told by Valencia and Porto fans, and what I've experienced during his tenure here.
At Porto, he didn't do too badly, but failing to win the league and any cups saw him sacked. He approached games with a Defensive mindset and struggled to break down teams that defended.

Same as at Valencia, when he left there he hadn't lost many games, he just drew too many.

You can split his tenure into three parts, championship and pre Wembley defeat to Watford and post Wembley defeat.

Championship we were too good. We had signed players from top sides in Europe and waltzed it. We were comfortable BUT we didn't turn teams over. We went 1 or 2 up and stepped off the gas and controlled games. But we could afford to do this because the skill gap was so wide.

Pre-wembley:
We pressed teams and counter attacked to perfection with pace. Obviously as a new team to the league, teams saw us as vulnerable and tried to attack and we exploited it, this was some of the better football we played and we became known for this swashbuckling counter attacking style.
When teams didn't attack and sat back, we didn't have the ability to break them down like we did in the championship. We lost twice to Huddersfield who finished on 16 pts, conceded 76 goals, and only won 3 times.

Wembley:
Raced into a 2-0 lead then sat back. Conceded a first, Nuno made subs to defend lead rather than remain a threat on the counter. Lost our attacking threat, lost 3-2. This marked the change.

Post Wembley:
Refused to commit men forward, at all. We lost all style, counter attacks went out the window, Neves' role changed from being an orchestrator a la Pirlo, into basically babysitting Conor Coady for 90 minutes and us playing with a back 6.
Intent from set pieces dried up.
Same squad selections week in week out. Our only tactic was give it to Adama. Every match was groundhog day, strikers were instructed to come back and defend, so when we did break through the lines with Adama, we had nobody in the box to cross to.
I maintain that last two seasons we did not have any attacking training at all, there was zero cohesion or pattern to attacks, it relied on individual brilliance from Adama and Neto. We focused on nullifying the opposition and their tactics. It was very spurs/late united Mourinhoesque.

If you get the best out of Nuno:
Fast counter attacks, overlapping fullbacks (he did invert Doherty but that's because Doherty is a shithead who spent most of his days stood on the penalty spot to stat pad his FPL while Moutinho or Dendoncker covered the RB spot) and inside forwards running at centre backs. Long raking balls from midfielders switching the play.

This style won't work for Spurs as the onus is on them to break down teams, rather than rely solely on the counter attack. Which is why I'm strongly of the belief it won't end well.

Nuno is a good guy who builds a rapport with the fans, but this is a double edged sword, as his nice persona to the fans gives him "credit in the bank" and saves him from being asked the tough questions.
Thanks mate, I was looking for something to depress the shit out of me today.
 
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Basically a combination of what we were told by Valencia and Porto fans, and what I've experienced during his tenure here.
At Porto, he didn't do too badly, but failing to win the league and any cups saw him sacked. He approached games with a Defensive mindset and struggled to break down teams that defended.

Same as at Valencia, when he left there he hadn't lost many games, he just drew too many.

You can split his tenure into three parts, championship and pre Wembley defeat to Watford and post Wembley defeat.

Championship we were too good. We had signed players from top sides in Europe and waltzed it. We were comfortable BUT we didn't turn teams over. We went 1 or 2 up and stepped off the gas and controlled games. But we could afford to do this because the skill gap was so wide.

Pre-wembley:
We pressed teams and counter attacked to perfection with pace. Obviously as a new team to the league, teams saw us as vulnerable and tried to attack and we exploited it, this was some of the better football we played and we became known for this swashbuckling counter attacking style.
When teams didn't attack and sat back, we didn't have the ability to break them down like we did in the championship. We lost twice to Huddersfield who finished on 16 pts, conceded 76 goals, and only won 3 times.

Wembley:
Raced into a 2-0 lead then sat back. Conceded a first, Nuno made subs to defend lead rather than remain a threat on the counter. Lost our attacking threat, lost 3-2. This marked the change.

Post Wembley:
Refused to commit men forward, at all. We lost all style, counter attacks went out the window, Neves' role changed from being an orchestrator a la Pirlo, into basically babysitting Conor Coady for 90 minutes and us playing with a back 6.
Intent from set pieces dried up.
Same squad selections week in week out. Our only tactic was give it to Adama. Every match was groundhog day, strikers were instructed to come back and defend, so when we did break through the lines with Adama, we had nobody in the box to cross to.
I maintain that last two seasons we did not have any attacking training at all, there was zero cohesion or pattern to attacks, it relied on individual brilliance from Adama and Neto. We focused on nullifying the opposition and their tactics. It was very spurs/late united Mourinhoesque.

If you get the best out of Nuno:
Fast counter attacks, overlapping fullbacks (he did invert Doherty but that's because Doherty is a shithead who spent most of his days stood on the penalty spot to stat pad his FPL while Moutinho or Dendoncker covered the RB spot) and inside forwards running at centre backs. Long raking balls from midfielders switching the play.

This style won't work for Spurs as the onus is on them to break down teams, rather than rely solely on the counter attack. Which is why I'm strongly of the belief it won't end well.

Nuno is a good guy who builds a rapport with the fans, but this is a double edged sword, as his nice persona to the fans gives him "credit in the bank" and saves him from being asked the tough questions.
:pochunimpressed:
 
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