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I swear it could only be us where we would have the individual and collective stats that we have put together in the last 3 seasons and not won a fcuking thing club-wise.

Kane, last season's goal difference, Alli's first to 50 goals for a midfielder, our home record etc....

It must be a jinx or we are just very unlucky.
 
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Doesn't this just prove we have great individual talent but something missing team wise?

No idea what it is and if Pochettino knew then we'd have won something.

Doesn't help that over the course of 3 years we've had to deal with changing formations, freak incidents (Leicester etc), bedding new players in, getting used to more high profile games (Champions League), more injuries, losing key players etc.
 
Simply can't fathom this mentality. We've been excellent, better than anyone has predicted, even the most optimistic of supporters didn't predict our up-turn and were completely dumfounded that we have taken it to the established elite for two seasons, many not even wanting to believe in our ability when we were chasing down Leicester. Many an argument on here to testify to this.

I recall only too many forecasting mid-table, specifically pointing to Place and West Ham easily finishing above us LOL. Nothing "unlucky" or "jinxed" about us in the slightest. If you think otherwise then you would have to be the ONLY supporter that saw us challenging for two titles when we signed Poch and we know that no one predicted this.

Stop trying to spin it as us failing, being jinxed or being unlucky. We have improved and progressed far more than anyone, including us as fans, had ever predicted. Despite us still continuing on an upward trajectory there is still pessimism, dissatisfaction and regret. Everything is now over, chance has gone (when chance wasn't even thought of it being their in the first place). Why look back when we are still improving, not fallen away? What we have is real, we are at the begging of something, not the end.

The world in which some of you inhabit is a depressing one.
 
Simply can't fathom this mentality. We've been excellent, better than anyone has predicted, even the most optimistic of supporters didn't predict our up-turn and were completely dumfounded that we have taken it to the established elite for two seasons, many not even wanting to believe in our ability when we were chasing down Leicester. Many an argument on here to testify to this.

I recall only too many forecasting mid-table, specifically pointing to Place and West Ham easily finishing above us LOL. Nothing "unlucky" or "jinxed" about us in the slightest. If you think otherwise then you would have to be the ONLY supporter that saw us challenging for two titles when we signed Poch and we know that no one predicted this.

Stop trying to spin it as us failing, being jinxed or being unlucky. We have improved and progressed far more than anyone, including us as fans, had ever predicted. Despite us still continuing on an upward trajectory there is still pessimism, dissatisfaction and regret. Everything is now over, chance has gone (when chance wasn't even thought of it being their in the first place). Why look back when we are still improving, not fallen away? What we have is real, we are at the begging of something, not the end.

The world in which some of you inhabit is a depressing one.
Imagine what this place would have looked like in the 90's

Sammy would have come on here and self combusted and the gloom, doom and despondency merchants would have drowned in an orgy of self congratulatory carping and "telling it like it is"
Imagine the fun they would have in being able to tell us how high their standards were, and how that kind of shit might have been OK for us, but for their needs it just wouldn't be good enough.

On the plus front I wouldn't have to look at just how many of my posts mindblown has dug up to disagree with. Currently he is more prolific than Harry Kane, who can only manage hat tricks. Mindblown can disagree with 20 of my posts at a time.

I wouldn't mind but he promised me that I had won the internet, and it still hasn't arrived.
 
Imagine what this place would have looked like in the 90's

Sammy would have come on here and self combusted and the gloom, doom and despondency merchants would have drowned in an orgy of self congratulatory carping and "telling it like it is"
Imagine the fun they would have in being able to tell us how high their standards were, and how that kind of shit might have been OK for us, but for their needs it just wouldn't be good enough.

On the plus front I wouldn't have to look at just how many of my posts mindblown has dug up to disagree with. Currently he is more prolific than Harry Kane, who can only manage hat tricks. Mindblown can disagree with 20 of my posts at a time.

I wouldn't mind but he promised me that I had won the internet, and it still hasn't arrived.
Meh. Disagree on your comments on Sammy, I think he’s a great poster and has been by and large positive poster, he had a small meltdown a couple of summers ago but came back a revitalised man.
 
It's not even hard to see, seriously. Money and bad luck. Period.

When I see people suggest it might be a mental block or to do with Poch's tactics I immediately can tell they are stupid. He's the pound for pound best manager in the country and has made our players the team equivalent.

We've had bad luck because Leciester and Chavs had no Europe when we came runners up.

Poch is working wonders with his resources but that is the main answer. Transfer spend and wage bill almost always correlates with final league standings. Yet dullards upon dullards ignore this and think real life is the mighty ducks or some shit. We are punching well above our weight but have been one uppercut away from the top prize because of our budget.

Like Poch said, judge him/Spurs once we compete financially (to some degree) with the other teams in the top 6.

Before cunts say that it's not money that made us play poor and make errors against x, y and z, yes I know but over the course of a season teams with more cash can overcome these moments by utilising expensive tools which we don't have, and said tools tend to make less mistakes and show more consistency hence their costs.

This isn't anti Levy or ENIC.. yet. After the new stadium they better fuckin back Poch.
 
Imagine what this place would have looked like in the 90's
Yes. A younger John Thomas would have been refusing to believe the new West Stand development and calling Sugar a cunt.
And there would have been a younger Mick Cooper, equally as bitter and condescending to other posters as his older version, telling us all the grass aint always greener on the other side.
:freund:
 
Have you not been reading his latest rants?
I agree with you though, he can be a good poster, but sadly has proved that he can match the worst.
When there is a theme or circle/spiral of posts I don’t read them as the stance is the same/repetitive (we are all guilty of this as little personal wars can develop even across different topics, I get the reason to stand ones ground when this happens but it’s boring for others). I’m one that complete disagrees with his opinion on Dele, we’ve exchanged opinion on this and respected it’s different. Hasn’t gone on for pages. Sometimes it’s not the opinion that drives the argument but a “game” of past run ins and previous arguments, when you have an opinion and it’s attacked from multiple sides, multiple people it also needs to be defended multiple times.
 
Bizarre responses to an opening post which talked of our record breaking exploits primarily and the inescapable truth that at any other time it would likely have brought silverware.

Honestly some people cannot see past their bias.

And equally canmot see how such wondrous stats that they have been part of, without anything other than plaudits can have a negative impact on their mentality.

So while we drool and correctly so about Kane's remarkable feat, there is still more that needs doing and I for one would forego the triumphalism of individual glory any day to win those games which still sit as most important in getting the greatest glories.
 
Yes. A younger John Thomas would have been refusing to believe the new West Stand development and calling Sugar a cunt.
And there would have been a younger Mick Cooper, equally as bitter and condescending to other posters as his older version, telling us all the grass aint always greener on the other side.
:freund:
Oh shush little one
I'm just condescending to you because you are a risible joke of a poster
Unlike you I am totally upbeat and and have a joy for life, that actually allows me to believe that the grass is greener.
You telling me otherwise is quite beyond funny
 
When there is a theme or circle/spiral of posts I don’t read them as the stance is the same/repetitive (we are all guilty of this as little personal wars can develop even across different topics, I get the reason to stand ones ground when this happens but it’s boring for others). I’m one that complete disagrees with his opinion on Dele, we’ve exchanged opinion on this and respected it’s different. Hasn’t gone on for pages. Sometimes it’s not the opinion that drives the argument but a “game” of past run ins and previous arguments, when you have an opinion and it’s attacked from multiple sides, multiple people it also needs to be defended multiple times.
If you post in the hostile and arrogant manner that he's want to, then you have to accept that you will get a barrage of reactionary posts. He seems to thrive on the conflict.
 
I swear it could only be us where we would have the individual and collective stats that we have put together in the last 3 seasons and not one a fcuking thing club-wise.

Kane, last season's goal difference, Alli's first to 50 goals for a midfielder, our home record etc....

It must be a jinx or we are just very unlucky.

Just not the most consistent over a football season.
But consistently good over 3 seasons.

For the money invested in the squad it’s incredible really.
 
Bizarre responses to an opening post which talked of our record breaking exploits primarily and the inescapable truth that at any other time it would likely have brought silverware.

Honestly some people cannot see past their bias.

And equally canmot see how such wondrous stats that they have been part of, without anything other than plaudits can have a negative impact on their mentality.

So while we drool and correctly so about Kane's remarkable feat, there is still more that needs doing and I for one would forego the triumphalism of individual glory any day to win those games which still sit as most important in getting the greatest glories.

Yeah maybe but what the fuck can we do about it?!

Ffs.
 
Was gonna post this in the match thread but here will do.

In the past when we would get a memeroable result (by that I mean a good result against a big team or when we put 4 or 5 past someone) I would download the match in full and save it for future enjoyment. (got me through doing the night feeds when my twin boys were babies).

But I stopped doing it round about the beggining of last season. I just couldn't keep up. We seem to do it so regularly now.

The 4-1 against City. The hiding we gave Chelsea on NYD a couple of years back.

The last NLD at the lane. 11 goals Against Hull and Leicester at the end of last season. The Madrid and Dortmund games.

Yes this team is trophyless under this regime. But that doesn't change how I feel about this team when I see us play at our superlative best on such on a regular basis. I live for that feeling. Yes winning a trophy would probably feel better. But I certainly don't need that to enjoy the way this team makes me feel. People should try and focus on that and less on shutting up Leicester fans and gooners and cunts in the media with their "what have they won".
 
Was gonna post this in the match thread but here will do.

In the past when we would get a memeroable result (by that I mean a good result against a big team or when we put 4 or 5 past someone) I would download the match in full and save it for future enjoyment. (got me through doing the night feeds when my twin boys were babies).

But I stopped doing it round about the beggining of last season. I just couldn't keep up. We seem to do it so regularly now.

The 4-1 against City. The hiding we gave Chelsea on NYD a couple of years back.

The last NLD at the lane. 11 goals Against Hull and Leicester at the end of last season. The Madrid and Dortmund games.

Yes this team is trophyless under this regime. But that doesn't change how I feel about this team when I see us play at our superlative best on such on a regular basis. I live for that feeling. Yes winning a trophy would probably feel better. But I certainly don't need that to enjoy the way this team makes me feel. People should try and focus on that and less on shutting up Leicester fans and gooners and cunts in the media with their "what have they won".
The "what have they/we won" argument is an odd one. If we're honest, it nags at all of us, without exception, yet on the other hand...

If winning trophies was ALL that mattered you could just check in toward the end of February for the League Cup final and then again in late May for the result of the League, the FA Cup final and the European titles. You wouldn't even need to like football really.

Nothing else would ever matter, no great games, unbelievable comebacks, goals you remember all your life (close your eyes and remember Glenn's finest - how many were related to a trophy win?) and so on. Meeting up with mates, excitedly looking forward to a game, the buzz when you saw the WHL floodlights from the train, the rush as you went up the steps and saw the pitch... None of that would count for anything.
 
I managed to persuade Mrs SS to watch MOTD last night, on account of Harry's record. Now, if you dont know Mrs SS (and I hope you don't*) she has never watched a game of football in her life. I managed to persuade her that it was only highlights and we were first up, so it really wouldn't hurt.

And so she asks me "If Harry is such a legend, why haven't Spurs won any trophies since you dragged me to a pub to watch the League Cup final all those years ago?"

Right on cue, MOTD shows Danny's back header which Hugo sort of scrambles onto the bar, and nearly knocks in the rebound as he collects the loose ball. "That right there is what it is to support Spurs," says I. The utterly brilliant followed by moments of utter calamity that would be funny if it didn't happen so often to us...

* all requests for "pics" ( Furball man Furball man , I'm looking at you mate) will be refused.
 
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