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How do you feel about this appointment

  • Like it.

    Votes: 22 5.4%
  • Hate it.

    Votes: 90 22.1%
  • Wait and see.

    Votes: 217 53.2%
  • I quit.

    Votes: 79 19.4%

  • Total voters
    408
Unless you’ve had your head stuck up Levy’s arse for the last few months, you’d know that Woolwich have top 4 form since Christmas, so for a lego toy I’d say he’s doing a decent job.

We had top 1 form until Christmas..... Such a shame the placings are decided by an entire season, isn't it.

Was he an ambitious/inspiring/exciting hire?

Was he a club "legend"?

Would you swap? ...Even now?

[ Your hit & run 'disagree'' speaks volumes ]
 
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"It is an uninspiring hire, one that wouldn’t be made by our rivals and one that indicates we have little to no ambition."

Thats where your moving the goal posts mate.
Ole is our equivalent of Mason. He impressed their fanbase and had the dressing room backing during the interim, and given the job.

Chavski hired Lampard with an Okayish positive tenure at Derby to weather the storm when they were enduring the transfer ban. Lampard being their legend would be easier to work their existing squad, and promote their own youngster. He did a decent job promoting Mount and Reece James, which Chavski managers rarely did, especially with the complicated dressing room and the pressure from above to achieve bare minimum. Lampard connection and being an England man means (and happened), that he got away with so much pressure from the media, fan. Tuchel became available and Lampard got the boot. The ambition of Chavski is shown not just there, but the way they splashed their cash even when Fat Frank was still there last summer.
 
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Ole is our equivalent of Mason.
Eh, Mason was so explicitly short-term and so non-qualified it’s not really the same thing. Try as some posters here might, you can’t pretend Mason was actually an option for the real job.

Ole is their Tactics Tim, and yet somehow he’s been there for three years. They are very very badly run.

United prove both what sheer, aimless, gauche spending can accomplish and what it can’t.
 
Eh, Mason was so explicitly short-term and so non-qualified it’s not really the same thing. Try as some posters here might, you can’t pretend Mason was actually an option for the real job.

Ole is their Tactics Tim, and yet somehow he’s been there for three years. They are very very badly run.

United prove both what sheer, aimless, gauche spending can accomplish and what it can’t.

No-one honestly thinks that do they?
 
Eh, Mason was so explicitly short-term and so non-qualified it’s not really the same thing. Try as some posters here might, you can’t pretend Mason was actually an option for the real job.

Ole is their Tactics Tim, and yet somehow he’s been there for three years. They are very very badly run.
Just so splitting hair here. Tactics Tim is our equivalent of Giggs, who has been kept at Man U for years to be groomed for big job at the club in the future. Giggs was only let go because Mourinho wanted non of that influential politic. Giggs was with Wales when Mourinho left, so Ole got the interim job for the rest of that season, and somehow got the contract to become the manager until now.

If Mason had enjoyed a similar spell like Ole interim period, I bet Levy would have given the job rightly or wrongly. Levy and Man U board are similar in some aspects.
 
Levy and Man U board are similar in some aspects.
Levy and Ed Woodward are the same person except Woodward is dumber and spends way more money on players.

The state of the two clubs speaks volumes about that distinction. Everything at United is falling apart except for the squad. Spurs are absolutely at the cutting edge and have no hope of ever winning anything.
 
Levy and Ed Woodward are the same person except Woodward is dumber and spends way more money on players.

The state of the two clubs speaks volumes about that distinction. Everything at United is falling apart except for the squad. Spurs are absolutely at the cutting edge and have no hope of ever winning anything.

Interesting to see how things work for them this summer and beyond..... He's their former chairman now isn't he.....
 
Interesting to see how things work for them this summer and beyond..... He's their former chairman now isn't he.....
He is still theirs until New Year. So far business as usual. There is a lot of talk about big name signings, but they have a habit of dragging thing out until the end of the window if they don't mess up.
 
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He is still there until New Year. So far business as usual. There is a lot of talk about big name signings, but they have a habit of dragging thing out until the end of the window if they don't mess up.

I thought he agreed to stand down once the season ended in the wake of the ESL blunder.
 
I thought he agreed to stand down once the season ended in the wake of the ESL blunder.

He is business man, working with business season. He's still their boss until new year.
 

He is business man, working with business season.

All good; one more window of him dithering and pissing their fans off then! :adethumbup:
 
I may be whelmed but I highly doubt he is going to be as bad as Mourinho - at least we'll actually try to attack, for one thing :roflmao: And he's nowhere near as lightweight in CV as the likes of OGS, Lampard, or Arteta at their appointments, while still having the mystery factor of never having managed in this league before (so not a proven failure like a Martinez or Southgate, or even just a known quantity like Benitez or Mancini... even if he's just a caretaker, I'd rather "dare" than go with the safe and easy).

There's plenty to his ethos that is intriguing imo, especially if it can be paired with a defensive specialist in the backroom. His stated desire for possession (that the best way to defend is to keep the ball, and to keep it in their half), for proactive vs reactive play, and for technical players is a relief to me after watching us camp in our half for a year against bottom-half teams. I don't doubt anyone can talk the talk, probably Martinez sounds every bit as bright and encouraging in interviews, but at least this guy *wants* to play a certain way and will be coming with a lot to prove instead of being a big name we had to beg or bribe to manage us. We usually do better with underdogs anyways.

It's really on Levy + Paratici to build him something he can actually work with. That's where my skepticism lies, but I'm happy to give any manager who wants to dream big with us a chance. Let's just see where we are come the transfer window close.
 
The ambition of Chavski is shown not just there, but the way they splashed their cash even when Fat Frank was still there last summer.

Having ambition is easy when cash can just be pumped into the club with no need to balance the books.

When making comparisons of how clubs should operate, I don’t think the financially doped qualify as a workable model.
 
Having ambition is easy when cash can just be pumped into the club with no need to balance the books.

When making comparisons of how clubs should operate, I don’t think the financially doped qualify as a workable model.
Not disagree.

My post is response to a post that trying to say Chavski may not show ambition with Fat Frank appointment. They tried with the best option. Question remains for us, are we with our resources?
 
Not disagree.

My post is response to a post that trying to say Chavski may not show ambition with Fat Frank appointment. They tried with the best option. Question remains for us, are we with our resources?

Sorry mate - I didn’t realise the context. Thought it was another Sky Sports-esque ignore-the-elephant-in-the-room “don’t they play wonderful football” comment. How the media can be so vociferous in their condemnation of the likes of Lance Armstrong and the Russian athletics federation yet gush over City and Chelsea really boils my piss.
 
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