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Management Poll: Who do you want most as our next manager?

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Who would be your first choice?

  • Graham Potter

  • Scott Parker

  • Ten Hag

  • Rafa Benitez

  • None of the above - comment below

  • *Marcelo Bielsa

  • *Ralf Rangnick

  • *Ralph Hasenhüttl

  • *Steven Gerrard

  • *Julen Lopetegui

  • *Christophe Galtier

  • *Marcelo Gallardo

  • *Oliver Glasner

  • *Ryan Mason

  • *Maurizio Sarri

  • *Gian Piero Gasperini

  • *Mauricio Pochettino

  • *Antonio Conte

  • *Eddie Howe

  • *Gareth Southgate

  • *Nuno Espirito Santo

  • *Paulo Fonseca

  • *Gennaro Gattuso

  • *Ernesto Valverde

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Jenny Talia said:
He picked him, he played well so he kept picking him.

If selecting him is the only criteria for developing his game then I guess Potter is also responsible for ruining the big money (for them) Brazilian guy they signed at about the same time then sacked off to Austria on loan.
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Bernardo? The LB? He had some chances, but failed to impress. He converted March to a LWB and he has been very good there. Is that not development?

Is lamptey showing his stuff week in and week out not part of coaching? Or do players come preloaded with FIFA stats and that is that?
 
Cravenspurs said:
Bernardo? The LB? He had some chances, but failed to impress. He converted March to a LWB and he has been very good there. Is that not development?

Is lamptey showing his stuff week in and week out not part of coaching? Or do players come preloaded with FIFA stats and that is that?
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That's the one.
So by your logic then Bernardo got bad coaching from Potter, and that's why he went backwards. Or is it all Potter when a guy plays well but all on the player when it doesn't work out?

Lamptey is a right back who they play at right back, the fact he did well is not really a mystery. He played for England in every age group and only left Chelsea because there is no pathway to the first team past Azpilicueta and Sid James.
 
Then who?

I see a few people in here talking about pros and cons of different coaches, and how they could work, or not work, and a bunch of people shitting all over any name mentioned without much depth of thought. Everyone is free to post what they want, but if this is supposed to be a conversation, then some people might want to bring more to the party than just "no, he won't work."
 
Jenny Talia said:
That's the one.
So by your logic then Bernardo got bad coaching from Potter, and that's why he went backwards. Or is it all Potter when a guy plays well but all on the player when it doesn't work out?

Lamptey is a right back who they play at right back, the fact he did well is not really a mystery. He played for England in every age group and only left Chelsea because there is no pathway to the first team past Azpilicueta and Sid James.
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By your logic, every player should be improved upon. Would you rather invest your time in a player, like March, Burn, Moder who do what you want in that position or a player that hasn't shown the ability? You only have so much time as a coach. It was a bad move and the man will most likely move on. It happens.
 
Jenny Talia said:
That idea of Ryan/Chris Powell/Ledley taking it on as a coaching team sounds good to me.
They all have Tottenham in their DNA, and if they added Kane and Bale as part of a leadership group I think it would be a very interesting way to go.
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The one caveat I'll add is that if the club goes in that direction, they have to give a lot of time and show patience. The fans will also have to show patience. So we can't sacking Mason after a half season, barring a relegation fight. He will need 3 years minimum
 
AlabamaSpur said:
The one caveat I'll add is that if the club goes in that direction, they have to give a lot of time and show patience. The fans will also have to show patience. So we can't sacking Mason after a half season, barring a relegation fight. He will need 3 years minimum
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And I think the club, given its current financial situation, likely does not have the time for that kind of project. That kind of choice does need plenty of time for learning and mistake making, but I don't think Levy or the fans have the patience to tolerate that now. So, I think it's likely to not be the choice, for that reason.

I think a smart club further down the pyramid would do well to give them that chance, as they likely would do well, and then in a couple of years, Spurs may be in a place where they could take that chance after recovering to a position where there is room for that kind of a gamble. But I don't think that right now is that time.
 
Cravenspurs said:
By your logic, every player should be improved upon. Would you rather invest your time in a player, like March, Burn, Moder who do what you want in that position or a player that hasn't shown the ability? You only have so much time as a coach. It was a bad move and the man will most likely move on. It happens.
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Isn't that pretty much what we have all been calling for? Not every player but at least half of them. And when we replace them I don't want players like Solly March or Burn anywhere near Spurs personally.
 
Juicy Sushi said:
And I think the club, given its current financial situation, likely does not have the time for that kind of project. That kind of choice does need plenty of time for learning and mistake making, but I don't think Levy or the fans have the patience to tolerate that now. So, I think it's likely to not be the choice, for that reason.

I think a smart club further down the pyramid would do well to give them that chance, as they likely would do well, and then in a couple of years, Spurs may be in a place where they could take that chance after recovering to a position where there is room for that kind of a gamble. But I don't think that right now is that time.
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I don't completely disagree, but I think we have to ask are we in a place to contend for a title with most of the current squad? Is the goal to qualify for the CL. Is it to be in Europe in some capacity? Are we going to be a cup team? So we have be careful not to get in a situation where we constantly are patching holes in a leaky ship just to stay in a neutral position.
 
Jenny Talia said:
He picked him, he played well so he kept picking him.

If selecting him is the only criteria for developing his game then I guess Potter is also responsible for ruining the big money (for them) Brazilian guy they signed at about the same time then sacked off to Austria on loan.
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The point I was responding to said that Poch developed young stars while at Saints. I was just pointing out that Potter has developed great young players at Brighton.

If you're giving Poch credit for "developing" players at Saints, then you need to give Potter the same credit.
 
Juicy Sushi said:
Yup. But as you said, it's a 2-game sample. Also, I am not sure if it is Ryan, Chris Powell, or Ledley who is making the biggest difference. Perhaps the three of them could actually be the coaching team we need. We don't have enough info to make that judgement. Of the choices who seem to be on the table that we have that kind of information for, Potter seems like one of the best options, to me. I realize that others will have different opinions, and that is fine. But I can only call it like I see it.
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Perhaps it's just the fact that the players have been let off the leash.
 
Juicy Sushi said:
It's also the style of it though. Potter has played attacking, possession-based football with a shit team and stayed up. That is what is unusual. Most small teams playing that style get relegated in short order (hello Daniel Farke's Norwich!). Those that stay up usually park the bus and play Burnley-esque bitter, defensive football.

Which we don't want. We've had that, and it was properly shit. If we want attacking, high-possession football we need a guy who can coach that, to the level we require in the modern game. There are a few guys who do that, and most of them already work at top clubs who are in a better place than we are right now. So they're not coming to us. Of those who are potentially available, Potter stands out for both attainability (it's fucking Brighton), and potential upside (first big job, so might catch fire like Poche did, or Tuchel at Dortmund).

Not many alternative offer that. None of the people available for us are a sure thing.
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He's had two seasons. He hasn't really progressed the club in those two seasons for me. He hasn't won enough games. Nuno has proven he can take clubs up a few steps. Dyche has a reputation as negative but he works with what he's got and has a lower championship side budget and still took them into europe. Eddie howe was up for 5 years with Bournemouth playing good football before they went down. I have seen brighton flirt with relegation 2 seasons running. If he had at least had 1 season where he at least over achieved and got 1 top 10 finish then I would take him more seriously. Not done enough for me to think he's capable of taking us into the top 4 and winning trophies.
 


Very standard answer. Not ruling out moving to another club but being respectful to his current employer.

Poch said similar things before moving to us from Southampton (before he fell out with the board at Saints).
 
ShutUpPatrik said:


Very standard answer. Not ruling out moving to another club but being respectful to his current employer.

Poch said similar things before moving to us from Southampton (before he fell out with the board at Saints).
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Yeah, the Media will spin it however they want, but there's literally no other way to answer that question while still being a professional. The answer really means nothing either way.
 
dmize1 said:
Yeah, the Media will spin it however they want, but there's literally no other way to answer that question while still being a professional. The answer really means nothing either way.
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The fact that Brighton's chairman has commented on it tells me that there is something going on.

Maybe he isn't our main target, but one that we have at the very least sounded out.
 
The idea of getting a winner in as Manager was a good one but Levy just picked the wrong one. I do want someone that targets winning and whilst do not want defensive football, do not want attacking football that wins nothing like Leeds at present.
 
Yiddy said:
He's had two seasons. He hasn't really progressed the club in those two seasons for me. He hasn't won enough games. Nuno has proven he can take clubs up a few steps. Dyche has a reputation as negative but he works with what he's got and has a lower championship side budget and still took them into europe. Eddie howe was up for 5 years with Bournemouth playing good football before they went down. I have seen brighton flirt with relegation 2 seasons running. If he had at least had 1 season where he at least over achieved and got 1 top 10 finish then I would take him more seriously. Not done enough for me to think he's capable of taking us into the top 4 and winning trophies.
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Bournemouth did not play good football. They were quite a negative, defensive side with truly crap attacking play.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, but I am not willing to accept any defensive, non-attacking managers. And apparently, neither is the club. So, Nuno isn't happening, and Dyche is emphatically not happening. Burnley does not have a lower championship budget either. Let's not exaggerate. Burnley are spending an order of magnitude more than the lower half of the Championship.
 
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