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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

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They Play Brighton which I think they lose, then its Forest and West ham so they are very much involved in this , still knowing the way this season is going they will pick up 3 against Brighton, get mathematically safe and then lose against West ham and Forest!
To go down Newcastle have to lose 4 games in a row, and we have to win at least 3. They'll be fine, but could plausibly come 16th or 17th.
 
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Quick question. What percentage of our long term injuries have occurred at our home ground? I suspect the retractable pitch may have a lot to do with our big injury lists over the past few seasons.
 
To go down Newcastle have to lose 4 games in a row, and we have to win at least 3. They'll be fine, but could plausibly come 17th.
I don't think they will lose 4 in a row, however the fact they are playing 2 other teams who could leap frog them with a win and contribute to 50% of them 4 losses could make things a bit interesting , any way I think we just need to worry about what we can do and take it 1 game at a time, Beating Villa , thats all we should be worried about , do that and then Worry about beating Leeds.
 
Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be .
Have free kick specialists become a thing of the past in the Premier League? I just checked and Liverpool are top with 4 free kick goals this season, Leeds are second with 3, Then there's three teams with 2, the rest are 1s or 0s.

There's only 5 teams that have scored more than 1 free kick this season.

 
Have free kick specialists become a thing of the past in the Premier League? I just checked and Liverpool are top with 4 free kick goals this season, Leeds are second with 3, Then there's three teams with 2, the rest are 1s or 0s.

There's only 5 teams that have scored more than 1 free kick this season.


I was making a lame attempt at humour .

But fully get what you’re saying.

Either it’s a dying art or goalies are getting taller ( with bigger hands ) and just are better able to keep out anything which isn’t arrowed in with millimetre precision ( and with all the swerve and dip etc that modern balls are designed to produce) .

Elite football is becoming like Formula 1 ; the science and technical developments have narrowed down the margins. And the spectacle has suffered as a result.
 
Quick question. What percentage of our long term injuries have occurred at our home ground? I suspect the retractable pitch may have a lot to do with our big injury lists over the past few seasons.

I genuinely think we have just been unfathomably unlucky. The kind that talks of issues beyond misfortune but ultimately are simply sets of unfortunate and unforeseen circumstances.

What is unforgivable is the response from the Chuckle brothers at the helm.
 
Simons - no
Masdison - no

Others?
It's only been the last two seasons when we've had an unusual amount of injuries, there were some under Postecoglou's first season, and Conte, Mourinho but not at this rate, I think are injuries were about normal in professional football then.

My theory is the injuries have been caused by mental stress brought on by players being intimidated by our own stadium, which carries through to the away games too.

This is an interesting article linked below.


We have a big time stadium and small time players. When Son and Kane were here, it gave the other players a sense of belonging in such a stadium, since those first few matches we had without Kane, the performances have got worse except for occasional good performances we've been sliding, when it became obvious that Son was no longer as capable as he was, the rest of the players have become timid.

I think they're anxious about being not good enough for the stadium, it's causing mental stress, and injuries, not just because of muscle tension but mistiming tackles, lunging, pretty much not being composed.
 
Have free kick specialists become a thing of the past in the Premier League? I just checked and Liverpool are top with 4 free kick goals this season, Leeds are second with 3, Then there's three teams with 2, the rest are 1s or 0s.

There's only 5 teams that have scored more than 1 free kick this season.

All defenders are 6ft 4 inches now. Cannot get over the wall.
 
Simons - no
Masdison - no

Others?
So what, that means nothing...

Just because Injures occured away from home, doesn't mean that home wasn't the issue.

It may well be the case that the stresses build up over time in the body, due to regularly playing at home on that pitch... So at some point, regardless of a player being at home or away game, an inocculous thing might release stresses built up and the player ends up injured from something very little.

I'm not saying the pitch is or isn't at fault, I'm just saying things can build up over time, and finally go at place where the problem isn't
 
I genuinely think we have just been unfathomably unlucky. The kind that talks of issues beyond misfortune but ultimately are simply sets of unfortunate and unforeseen circumstances.

What is unforgivable is the response from the Chuckle brothers at the helm.

Luck is when opportunity meets preparation.

As Seneca once said .

I’m pretty sure if would have something very similar ( but crucially different) to describe our apparent run of “bad “ luck .
 
It's only been the last two seasons when we've had an unusual amount of injuries, there were some under Postecoglou's first season, and Conte, Mourinho but not at this rate, I think are injuries were about normal in professional football then.

My theory is the injuries have been caused by mental stress brought on by players being intimidated by our own stadium, which carries through to the away games too.

This is an interesting article linked below.


We have a big time stadium and small time players. When Son and Kane were here, it gave the other players a sense of belonging in such a stadium, since those first few matches we had without Kane, the performances have got worse except for occasional good performances we've been sliding, when it became obvious that Son was no longer as capable as he was, the rest of the players have become timid.

I think they're anxious about being not good enough for the stadium, it's causing mental stress, and injuries, not just because of muscle tension but mistiming tackles, lunging, pretty much not being composed.

I tend to agree and have little doubt the pressure of playing for us and struggling adds to the injury issues.

That's why next season, whichever league, a lot of thought needs to go into what players we buy, but without 1 or 2 very very good players (easier if we are in the Championship to acquire), we will probsbly see more of the same.
 
I tend to agree and have little doubt the pressure of playing for us and struggling adds to the injury issues.

That's why next season, whichever league, a lot of thought needs to go into what players we buy, but without 1 or 2 very very good players (easier if we are in the Championship to acquire), we will probsbly see more of the same.

I dont agree with the whole 'reset by getting relegated' idea generally but I do think a sporting / competitive tilt as bad as ours needs a reset. Maybe the pressure at the club at the moment that you are talking about would get a bit of a release if we do go down, decent team with 2 or 3 standout players relative to the division. Maybe it really is what we need at this point!
 
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