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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?

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Who to replace Ange?

  • Andoni Iraola

  • Edin Terzic

  • Graham Potter

  • Thomas Frank

  • Marco Silva

  • Kieran McKenna

  • Ryan Mason (Full Time)

  • Michel

  • Xavi

  • Mauricio Pochettino

  • Dino Toppmoller

  • Simone Inzaghi

  • Sean Dyche (Click here if you're an idiot)

  • No-one (Ange new contract)

  • Oliver Glasner

  • Vincenzo Italiano

  • Vitor Pereira

  • Scott Parker

  • Will Still

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HampshireSpur said:
The football this year has been total shit frankly. What Brentford play atm isn't prime Barca but it's levels above.
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Don Pedro said:
Maddison needs a 4-3-3. He's not athletic enough for any other system. This was proven at Leicester when rogers could never find a role for Maddison whenever he reverted to a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 formation. Tielmans and N'didi were always first choice centre mids so Maddison would find himself competing with Barnes and Perez for the wide roles which he was not as effective in.

Maddison is an out and out 10 really. Can play the 8 role in a 3 man midfield too. He was able to play in the 3-5-2 formation when Iheanacho hit form and Rogers started two strikers for a period with Maddison having a free role in behind but once Barnes was back in the team, they found it very hard to find room for Maddison. Maddison would only play when Rogers did 4-3-3 bar that one period where Iheanacho hit fire for a 10 game spell.

I think we'll have same issue at Spurs. He can't play in a 2 man midfield and he is not athletic enough to play in a front 3. With Champions League and rotation he will still be used loads, but can imagine him not being part of Frank's strongest 11 and not part of any future plans.

In truth Maddison is a luxury player and not a player who suits pragmatic managers. Hence why Conte never wanted him. He is/was perfect under Ange where we always aimed to be on the front foot and always lined up with 3 in midfield and Maddison always being the most attacking.
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Frank has played 4-2-3-1 mostly this season with Damsgaard as his no 10/8, don't see why Maddison cannot operate as that.

All the other times he's played 4-3-3, think he's played a back 5 once or twice.
 
My instincts tell me that if it isn't Marco Silva; Michael Carrick would be the next best punt.

I watched Boro a few times last season.

Against Coventry, at the fag end of the season, Boro created so many quality chances, playing 1 and 2 touch football in the final third, it was a joy to behold. Coventry's goalkeeper had the game of his life. Carrick's team had a distinct identity.

It's total football and I suspect the players have been instructed not to shoot or cross aimlessly into the box but to continually attack directly until a quality chance is created.

It was obvious that Carrick had given his team clear instructions, which they understood and carried out almost to perfection.

With better, more clinical finishing; I believe Boro would have been automatically promoted.

It may be Carrick's time tbh.

If Spurs don't give him the job I suspect somebody else will make him a Premier League manager in the not too distant future.
 
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Kosher Kid said:
My instincts tell me that if it isn't Marco Silva; Michael Carrick would be the next best punt.

I watched Boro a few times last season.

Against Coventry, at the fag end of the season, Boro created so many quality chances, playing 1 and 2 touch football in the final third, it was a joy to behold. Coventry's goalkeeper had the game of his life. Carrick's team had a distinct identity.

It's total football and I suspect the players have been instructed not to shoot or cross aimlessly into the box but to continually attack directly until a quality chance is created.

It was clear that Carrick had given his team clear instructions, which they understood and carried out almost to perfection.

With better, more clinical finishing; I believe Boro would have been automatically promoted.

It may be Carrick's time tbh.

If Spurs don't give him the job I suspect somebody else will make him a Premier League manager in the not too distant future.
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Always rated him as a player
 
Kosher Kid said:
My instincts tell me that if it isn't Marco Silva; Michael Carrick would be the next best punt.

I watched Boro a few times last season.

Against Coventry, at the fag end of the season, Boro created so many quality chances, playing 1 and 2 touch football in the final third, it was a joy to behold. Coventry's goalkeeper had the game of his life. Carrick's team had a distinct identity.

It's total football and I suspect the players have been instructed not to shoot or cross aimlessly into the box but to continually attack directly until a quality chance is created.

It was obvious that Carrick had given his team clear instructions, which they understood and carried out almost to perfection.

With better, more clinical finishing; I believe Boro would have been automatically promoted.

It may be Carrick's time tbh.

If Spurs don't give him the job I suspect somebody else will make him a Premier League manager in the not too distant future.
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I honestly think he needs to prove himself in the prem before that jump. Ange should be a lesson to top 6/8 teams in the prem - it takes a whole season to learn and adapt to the prem. It's a distinctly brutal competition, unique to the world. There's never a perfect prediction, but being able to do well with a low//mid table team is a good test.

That or, of course, proving yourself in another top league in europe in addition to other accolades (say winning european cups/doing well in CL) can be a marker for predicted success.

Unfortunately, Ange had none of those markers. Had he gone to say a "Brighton", he would have been found out for his inflexibility and inability to adapt in the league.
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I honestly think he needs to prove himself in the prem before that jump. Ange should be a lesson to top 6/8 teams in the prem - it takes a whole season to learn and adapt to the prem. It's a distinctly brutal competition, unique to the world. There's never a perfect prediction, but being able to do well with a low//mid table team is a good test.

That or, of course, proving yourself in another top league in europe in addition to other accolades (say winning european cups/doing well in CL) can be a marker for predicted success.

Unfortunately, Ange had none of those markers. Had he gone to say a "Brighton", he would have been found out for his inflexibility and inability to adapt in the league.
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I understand the desire for Prem proven but Frank is only proven at keeping a cheap, low budget team in the league.

Is that what we want?

Carrick has not long finished playing and has probably learned what not to do from his stint as a coach at United.

I liked the style of play he has created at Boro. Pleasing to the eye and effective.

With better players I suspect Carrick's time is coming.
 
Fattynomates said:
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Tottenham beat Brentford to end a four-game losing run in the league as Spurs fans repeatedly call for chairman Daniel Levy to leave the club.
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What do you reckon head to head shows, out of interest? If we go down this road perhaps we should appoint van Nistelrooy as he has a winning record against Ange.
 
Kosher Kid said:
I understand the desire for Prem proven but Frank is only proven at keeping a cheap, low budget team in the league.

Is that what we want?

Carrick has not long finished playing and has probably learned what not to do from his stint as a coach at United.

I liked the style of play he has created the was the choice Boro. Pleasing to the eye and effective.

With better players I suspect Carrick's time is coming.
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I had just seen that Carrick had been sacked by Boro.... And was going to ask the fans what they would think if he was the choice.... Ex player... Woodgate as well.. Ex player.... How would we feel about those 2 coming back and attempting to take us to the next level?
 
I'm slowly coming around to the Frank idea. Posters on here have pointed out that he moved to a 4-2-3-1 for many games last season and used players like Damsgaard. I was probably being too harsh when I described him as pragmatic or saying he is identical to Nuno.

I still find him underwhelming and I'm very concerned about their home form last season between December and April where they could not break down any teams who sat at their ground. But Frank is very adoptable and there is a chance he could just go up a level with better players. He was literally getting blood from a stone at Brentford.
 
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