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He's at it again.

6 goals and 6 assists in 15 appearances (mostly off bench) in Dutch top league (570 mins) or a goal/assist every 48 mins and 1 goal and 2 assists in 5 appearances in EL (248 mins).

Aged 18.......as a winger. The cost of not providing a route to first team is high.
 
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How to be pleased (for him) and pig sick (for us)

Yay...urgh
Last season, his first, and aged as a 17/18 year old he got 4 goals and 4 assists in 12 appearances

IMO the most likely AM closest to say Jadon Sancho we are likely to get coming through the youth system in a decade who the first team manager ignores .... and Sancho is worth, what, 100m ?

I'd guess that's why Levy asked him to give some focus on youngsters......cough Devine, Scarlett in pre-season and a first team appearance (so far).
 
Last season, his first, and aged as a 17/18 year old he got 4 goals and 4 assists in 12 appearances

IMO the most likely AM closest to say Jadon Sancho we are likely to get coming through the youth system in a decade who the first team manager ignores .... and Sancho is worth, what, 100m ?

I'd guess that's why Levy asked him to give some focus on youngsters......cough Devine, Scarlett in pre-season and a first team appearance (so far).

Scarlett's putting in numbers that can't be ignored. Shame about Noni, would be nice if we have an Edwards type clause (or did his contract expire?) to get him back cheaper in a season or two (though read he's a Utd fan and being mentored by Van Nistelrooy at PSV).
 
Scarlett's putting in numbers that can't be ignored. Shame about Noni, would be nice if we have an Edwards type clause (or did his contract expire?) to get him back cheaper in a season or two (though read he's a Utd fan and being mentored by Van Nistelrooy at PSV).

Spurs u16 captain and E u16 star but declined to sign a professional contract at Spurs due to lack of path to first team (thanks Poch) and signed for PSV instead.

As a top youth signing PSV.nl - PSV complete signing of Madueke (major announcement for a 16 year old - no ?) no surprise he is trained by one of the best former players involved in psv's youth training scheme.

Many kids are not Spurs supporters as youngsters but play and star at Spurs and others are Spurs supporters yet never get to play at Spurs but star elsewhere - do I ignore stories of who supports who.
 
- do I ignore stories of who supports who.
Dalglish, Celtic legend. And Rangers fan.

Half of the Liverpool Academy that came through in the 90's together were staunch Evertonians.

If I were a 16 year old desperate to make it as a pro, the key thing would be to be at the best place to improve and get the chance of first team footie. Spurs? A nice to have but no more and pretty irrelevant in the overall scheme.
 


He's at it again.

6 goals and 6 assists in 15 appearances (mostly off bench) in Dutch top league (570 mins) or a goal/assist every 48 mins and 1 goal and 2 assists in 5 appearances in EL (248 mins).

Aged 18.......as a winger. The cost of not providing a route to first team is high.

Would be Bergwijn/Son's ideal understudy rather than Lamela, Moura and co.
 
Dalglish, Celtic legend. And Rangers fan.

Half of the Liverpool Academy that came through in the 90's together were staunch Evertonians.

If I were a 16 year old desperate to make it as a pro, the key thing would be to be at the best place to improve and get the chance of first team footie. Spurs? A nice to have but no more and pretty irrelevant in the overall scheme.
Our own talisman spent time in both the Woolwich and Watford academies before Spurs decided that he was good enough to recruit. And he is as COYS as it comes.

There are limited spots in these academies and youth prospects cannot afford to be picky. Majority of them go to whatever academy is interested in having them.
 


He's at it again.

6 goals and 6 assists in 15 appearances (mostly off bench) in Dutch top league (570 mins) or a goal/assist every 48 mins and 1 goal and 2 assists in 5 appearances in EL (248 mins).

Aged 18.......as a winger. The cost of not providing a route to first team is high.


Question for anyone that knows..... if we need HG numbers does he still qualify as HG for us?

Edit: seems he was at Spurs for 4 years so not only HG but academy grown as well.

Currently, to be classified as homegrown one must be on an English team for at least three years before the age of twenty-one[4] which Dyke wanted to reduce to eighteen. This would mean that a teenager would have to start at the club by the age of fifteen at the latest and, since players are not allowed to move across national boundaries before sixteen (except under exceptional circumstances), this would mean fewer foreign players could qualify as homegrown
 
Question for anyone that knows..... if we need HG numbers does he still qualify as HG for us?

Edit: seems he was at Spurs for 4 years so not only HG but academy grown as well.

Currently, to be classified as homegrown one must be on an English team for at least three years before the age of twenty-one[4] which Dyke wanted to reduce to eighteen. This would mean that a teenager would have to start at the club by the age of fifteen at the latest and, since players are not allowed to move across national boundaries before sixteen (except under exceptional circumstances), this would mean fewer foreign players could qualify as homegrown
Not quite correct. The UEFA regulations say :

A "club-trained player" is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months. In the context of this paragraph, the season immediately preceding a player’s 15th birthday may be counted if his birthday is after the last match of the relevant national championship but before or on 30 June (winter championships) or 31 December (summer championships), and the season immediately following his 21st birthday may be counted if his birthday is on or after 1 July (winter championships) or 1 January (summer championships) but before the first match of the relevant national championship.

As Mandueke was at Spurs for his 15th birthday but moved to PSV when he was just over 16 he has probably competed only one year, certainly less than 2 years before he moved to PSV.

However he is still only 18, so if he came back to Spurs :
1. Probably need almost another one year he would have had enough time at Spurs to qualify as a List B (u21) player for which 2 years is required.
2 Probably need almost another 2 years after he returned he would qualify as a Club trained player having completed 2 years at the club - provided he were still under age 21 !.


NB. dob 21/3/2002, so aged 15 on 21/3/2017 joined psv in June 2008 - so might stretch the age 15 date to August 2016 (start of season when 15), so had completed about 21 months at Spurs before moving to PSV. If that interpretation is accepted :
1. He need complete only 3 months to be able to register him as an u21/List B players
2. He need only complete 15 months to qualify as a club trained player (providing still under 21 at the end of that time period)
 


Blues Bring In White - News - Portsmouth (portsmouthfc.co.uk)

Article includes a nice clip of White scoring from a free kick against a Pompey first team back in 2018 in EFL Trophy when Spurs u23's played various League 1 and League 2 teams......with White being about 17.


And Kenny Jackett was the manager of Millwall when he gave Harry Kane his first loan there.....I'm hoping he's not lost his touch with Spurs loanees !

Former Millwall manager Kenny Jackett hails Tottenham Hotspur star Harry Kane as the hardest working young player he has ever coached (thesun.co.uk)
 
Blues Bring In White - News - Portsmouth (portsmouthfc.co.uk)

Article includes a nice clip of White scoring from a free kick against a Pompey first team back in 2018 in EFL Trophy when Spurs u23's played various League 1 and League 2 teams......with White being about 17.


And Kenny Jackett was the manager of Millwall when he gave Harry Kane his first loan there.....I'm hoping he's not lost his touch with Spurs loanees !

Former Millwall manager Kenny Jackett hails Tottenham Hotspur star Harry Kane as the hardest working young player he has ever coached (thesun.co.uk)
I know a pompey fan and he says Jackett is good at destroying young midfield players.

hopefully he’s wrong about that!
 


Markanday a good technical creative player, although short which might be a slight negative to some managers, who has been chipping in with a few assists and goals for u23's. Has some similarities to Marcus Edwards in his style of play.
 
Not quite correct. The UEFA regulations say :

A "club-trained player" is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months. In the context of this paragraph, the season immediately preceding a player’s 15th birthday may be counted if his birthday is after the last match of the relevant national championship but before or on 30 June (winter championships) or 31 December (summer championships), and the season immediately following his 21st birthday may be counted if his birthday is on or after 1 July (winter championships) or 1 January (summer championships) but before the first match of the relevant national championship.

As Mandueke was at Spurs for his 15th birthday but moved to PSV when he was just over 16 he has probably competed only one year, certainly less than 2 years before he moved to PSV.

However he is still only 18, so if he came back to Spurs :
1. Probably need almost another one year he would have had enough time at Spurs to qualify as a List B (u21) player for which 2 years is required.
2 Probably need almost another 2 years after he returned he would qualify as a Club trained player having completed 2 years at the club - provided he were still under age 21 !.


NB. dob 21/3/2002, so aged 15 on 21/3/2017 joined psv in June 2008 - so might stretch the age 15 date to August 2016 (start of season when 15), so had completed about 21 months at Spurs before moving to PSV. If that interpretation is accepted :
1. He need complete only 3 months to be able to register him as an u21/List B players
2. He need only complete 15 months to qualify as a club trained player (providing still under 21 at the end of that time period)

So, this summer is the only window to make him full HG, as the winter he would be 21 just14 months (max) from Jan 1st 2022 to his 21st birthday on the 21/03/2023.
 
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