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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Scott and John etc were correct when we sold Kane and Dele.
Then when Kane and Dele signed new contracts, they were still right because contracts mean nothing and it was just to bump up their price.

They were then right when they said Poch would leave. They read between the lines.

Then when Poch signed it meant nothing.
Then Poch was lied to and tricked into signing and would leave by the end of the summer window.

They were still right by November though because we would finished 12th and Poch would leave in January.

He would join Real, but they were still right when Real took Zidane back because he would definitely join Utd this summer.

They were still right though when Ole got the full time job, and now they are right that the club had been destroyed by Levy and the CL semis and 3rd is fucking shit.

Who’d have known.
You just make up these fantasies, it's crazy. None of the things you've written there are true
 
I don't it's about the funds, I think we're absolutely awful at getting deals done. Both when selling and buying

You're not wrong.

If Eriksen is to leave, you just know it'll drone on and on and go up until the final day, before we can get anything done elsewhere.

Luckily, Toby's clause expires at a certain time, so we can hopefully get that done and dusted early.
 
don't matter what we say its what Levy thinks that matters, If we manage to hold on to the top 4 Levy 's position in not buying anyone is vindicated (look we didn't need players) if we don't get top 4 how much will Levy spend with us in EL & who would come here ? I feel if we make top 4 a lot of players here will think why bother staying here the club have no ambition
The players, as always and irrespective of our league place, that will sign with Spurs are the players who feel like the wages we're offering is a good wedge compared to what they've had/can get. Its shocking how much our supporters keep deluding themselves that most footballers A) want to play in a pretty stadium B) care about a club's ambition C) have an overriding desire to win glory.

Its a business, and players are in the business of selling their services in exchange for as much money as possible in order to spend the second half of their lives at ease. Funny, Man U, woolwich, chavs, and Liverpool have all recently managed to recruit players to EL teams - in many cases the same players being drooled over on here.

Players want money. Making £180k pw and playing EL in a half empty bowl is going to be a lot more attractive to 95% of footballers than making £120k pw and playing CL in the shiniest stadium in the world. They're humans too - how many here would stay/move to a company they "like" for 66% of the compensation? No one, that's the answer.
 
The players, as always and irrespective of our league place, that will sign with Spurs are the players who feel like the wages we're offering is a good wedge compared to what they've had/can get. Its shocking how much our supporters keep deluding themselves that most footballers A) want to play in a pretty stadium B) care about a club's ambition C) have an overriding desire to win glory.

Its a business, and players are in the business of selling their services in exchange for as much money as possible in order to spend the second half of their lives at ease. Funny, Man U, woolwich, chavs, and Liverpool have all recently managed to recruit players to EL teams - in many cases the same players being drooled over on here.

Players want money. Making £180k pw and playing EL in a half empty bowl is going to be a lot more attractive to 95% of footballers than making £120k pw and playing CL in the shiniest stadium in the world. They're humans too - how many here would stay/move to a company they "like" for 66% of the compensation? No one, that's the answer.

Granted they represent a minority of the mainstream, but such people exist.

Albeit in the context of a career change, I've done just that.


No offense, but I hate this assumption that EVERYONE is driven by money and wealth.
 
Feels a lot like last summer. Talks of big spending etc, but I still have absolutely zero faith that we'll be able to get deals over the line

Eh, the days and weeks are awfully long dealing with all the rumor bullshit, but the fact is we brought in 5 the summer before, 4 the summer before that, 5 more the one before that, etc.

Pretty sure it's the first time we haven't brought in at least 4 in a summer since that last 'Arry year. Levy has generally done a lot of trading in players.
 
Granted they represent a minority of the mainstream, but such people exist.

Albeit in the context of a career change, I've done just that.


No offense, but I hate this assumption that EVERYONE is driven by money and wealth.
Well, sure, there are footballers that just want to play for the club they love, win things, have a solid perspective on the relative value of money and consider it less of a priority. Kane seems to be one such player. But they're pretty rare, and they also tend to stick with a club the blossom at - so you're buying them young and growing them.

We're generalizing, obviously, and talking about players who in the middle of their careers are seeking a switch. Even then, if you're prioritizing trophies as a player then the odds say go to City. Historically speaking you would choose United. You'll also make more money there than elsewhere. So that leaves Liverpool, chavs, woolwich and Spurs - none seem anymore a guarantee of success year to year than the others, Liverpool has shine now and woolwich and chavs had recent success. All could make the CL next year, all could be in the EL. 3 of those will pay significantly more than the 4th.

And this isn't to have a dig at Levy...I still think the way he runsthe club is right. But we're just going to miss iut on players to our rivals, because its inconceivable that we can cobble together a competitive club out of the slim minority of players that don't have money as one of their highest priorities.
 
Well, sure, there are footballers that just want to play for the club they love, win things, have a solid perspective on the relative value of money and consider it less of a priority. Kane seems to be one such player. But they're pretty rare, and they also tend to stick with a club the blossom at - so you're buying them young and growing them.

We're generalizing, obviously, and talking about players who in the middle of their careers are seeking a switch. Even then, if you're prioritizing trophies as a player then the odds say go to City. Historically speaking you would choose United. You'll also make more money there than elsewhere. So that leaves Liverpool, chavs, woolwich and Spurs - none seem anymore a guarantee of success year to year than the others, Liverpool has shine now and woolwich and chavs had recent success. All could make the CL next year, all could be in the EL. 3 of those will pay significantly more than the 4th.

And this isn't to have a dig at Levy...I still think the way he runsthe club is right. But we're just going to miss iut on players to our rivals, because its inconceivable that we can cobble together a competitive club out of the slim minority of players that don't have money as one of their highest priorities.
You are assuming that Kane will stick around for the rest of his career but is he going to want to keep winning nothing with semi final and a top four finish as the summit of his ambition, I would think the answer is no and that at some point will look to find a club that can fulfill his ambitions and can you blame him.
 
The players, as always and irrespective of our league place, that will sign with Spurs are the players who feel like the wages we're offering is a good wedge compared to what they've had/can get. Its shocking how much our supporters keep deluding themselves that most footballers A) want to play in a pretty stadium B) care about a club's ambition C) have an overriding desire to win glory.

Its a business, and players are in the business of selling their services in exchange for as much money as possible in order to spend the second half of their lives at ease. Funny, Man U, woolwich, chavs, and Liverpool have all recently managed to recruit players to EL teams - in many cases the same players being drooled over on here.

Players want money. Making £180k pw and playing EL in a half empty bowl is going to be a lot more attractive to 95% of footballers than making £120k pw and playing CL in the shiniest stadium in the world. They're humans too - how many here would stay/move to a company they "like" for 66% of the compensation? No one, that's the answer.

This. Our ability to pull in depth and starting quality depends on how much we are willing to drop on their weekly wages. Europa this year will not be the deterrent. It will be our wage offers. The vision of the club might interest some of those players like Kane that do play for glory, but let's be frank. Isco and some other players want to be paid more than play for a shirt.
 
Always about money, but I'm led to believe the reason deals are so hard to get over the line are due to complicated incentives contracts.

Players going to City or Chelsea are paid £150k per week no questions asked. At Spurs it'll be something like,

Midfielder:
£50k per week if starting
£25k per week if named sub plus £10k if used as a sub.
Make 90 passes + possession of at least 55% = £50k per week.
Goal £20k bonus
Assist £10k bonus
Distance covered over 4km =20k bonus

So the money is there to be had, but let's face it, much like normal people, some weeks youjust cant be arsed to put in 100%
 
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